Episode 5: “BULK HORIZONS” feat. Denglord *FULL EPISODE ON PATREON*

Trevor McFedries
@trevvyboi

In a world that prizes weakness and being a whimpering baby, it’s important to remember: it’s valid to be a musclebound freak. So we talked to certified hench head and Break With Me uberlord Denglord about cultivating a fire physique, sourcing cut-rate shrimp, and rock (music for strong guys).Deng is a POD (Person of Depth). He plays in fire band (Bad Sip), presided over the drop of most relevant DIY ass zine in world (Break With Me’s Halcyon Daze!), and runs social for A-list ass individuals who cannot be named outside of a non-Patreon-subscribing-ass environment. He’s also co-responsible for bringing legends like DJ Paypal, Pretty V and DJ Smokey to London’s punter public. You love it so much…First half of ep on Clout Farm Soundcloud right now. Out everywhere else tomorrow.Full ep available now on our Patreon 💰👍Patreon: CloutFarmIG: @cloutfarmpod

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0:35-2:58

All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. All right, folks, you heard right. You may have gathered that our guests are barfing and snoring. And you know why that might be? Because we are sick and tired of the BS. I said it. And I'll get specific. By BS, I mean the fakeness. I mean the phoneness. I mean the all-round culture of sussness that abounds. Cats are moving shysy right now, man. There's a real vibe shift at large. And I've heard this phrase used in a way I don't appreciate because the vibe shift in question is the shystiness. And we're done with it, frankly speaking. I'm sorry. If that's not PC, then guess what? Apology not given. There's a real influx of people in our territory. And I'm sick of cats not calling them out by names. I speak of phonies. And it is O-V-E-R. It's over. No more phonies. If you're a phony MF or some kind of poser or lame or a neek, perhaps, you need to stop listening right now. You need to stop listening. You need to subscribe to the Patreon, but you are hereby barred from listening. Capisce? Capisce? Let's start the damn podcast. We're talking a dang lord. what's up what's up dang lord the antithesis to a phony that's why we brought you on that was a good cold open it was completely completely off the dome on on all three of our behalves are you getting reverb from or like you know whatever from my mic can i turn up a little bit from all the chunder noise no you're good okay cool i just want to put on headphones all right nice you're pristine man you're fine you're fine How are you living? When I last saw you, you'd necked, I was told by Christian later, something like 19 pints. That was the number, that was the figure I was given. I'm quite, yeah, I'm all right at the kind of long haul drinking game, but I didn't make it to the afters really, as you know. You were there physically, but you were absent in every other way. My last memory is talking to you about Metallica.

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Oh yeah, I was asking what your favorite albums were and I kind of like lost you midway. I think we fucked up though. I remember we basically said like every good Metallica song was on and Justice for All. That's just not true. No, no, no, no. We were saying, I think the conclusion, as I recall it, before you started to unravel was Black Album, man. And this is one thing when Rob gets... I feel like almost every of the four episodes we've done, three of them have... kind of devolve to metal discussion which is where rob sort of loses his footing well i'm not a real i'm not a real metal head i'm i'm kind of like the reverse i started off as a kid like exclusively being into like hard rock and metal and then kind of got more and more of as i grew up you got you got no no i became more of a I don't know, that's not... That's a pussy-less answer. I don't know, bro. No, this is for the electronic music incel community, so you're in the right place, man. You're in the right place. I'm 100% volatile. Sick. Does that mean volatility sell? Volume sell a bit. I'm all about loudness. Oh, nice. It's not loud volume. Yeah. Load volume, yeah. Nice. Oh, actually, I wanted to talk about this. So I've accidentally done No Nut. Well, because you've been away. I've just been, since the 31st of October, I've been traveling. And this is the, and I realized this morning when I woke up, I was like, it's been, what's it today? Six days. Six days of accidental no-not. So I'm going to keep it going now. I had no intention of doing this, but I'm going to see how long it can last. And there will be a Patreon reward for the person who guesses once I have bus. Will the reward be your nut? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at it in a vial. But no, there will be a reward. If you can write in and guess the episode on which I finally let loose.

5:20-7:42

Because you can tell in the change of the vigor with which I'm approaching the pod, then there will be a prize for you. And I will be hand-delivering it to the lucky winner. Yeah, well, yeah, because when I do bus, it will be in your hands. I would actually propose a secondary challenge in the event. I mean, we could do that thing, but we could also try to bring Rob to climax using only our words. You're a well-spoken individual, Denglerid. You think so? yeah you i i saw you rallying off abcs on friday like it was like it was child's play um yeah you're actually mad verbose i i i gotta rein it in man i gotta rein it in yeah it's it's i think well that's the thing verbosity implies verbosity is by its nature too verbose um so i think you'll find that the two and that little put down was uh um superfluous do you think it's like an esl thing to get to get sincere for sex again do you think it's like in english is the second language thing um what do you think my first language is body language damn i don't i really don't want this on the record i want to keep people guessing we're gonna bleed okay well sorry i mean oh yeah thanks man you're saving me saving me editing work there did you just bust Yeah, he did a cow bust. I can't believe I just fucking did that, bro. He did the bull load. Yeah. That's what I'll have by the end of No-No. Raging loads. So do you sing in Bad Sit, Don? Yeah, yeah. Is it all you or is it split between you and Harry? No, Harry's not in the band. It's a different guy. It's my friend Obi. He's a very talented painter. We write all the songs together. Then there's another guy who plays guitar with us. And maybe a drummer soon. But I don't really know my way around Logic. I used to make really bad drill. That's how I kind of got into Logic. Oh, so your first circle? Yeah, that's me. I wish. Is that the first thing to come to mind? Bad drill? Yeah, shit. That's unfair, because he's cool.

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He's a good friend of the pod. Good friend of the pod. He's a good man, but that's independent of his quality of his music. Yeah. Great guy, bad music. I wish we're talking to First Circle right now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, sometimes you got to get the B-list First Circle. Well, I said to MK beforehand, like, I'm fully downstream of all this shit. So it's like having your fan club on the pod. Our one guy, yes. And he's the... It's just me and my bro. It's just me and my bro. To be fair, you basically want to fuck a fan? I want to fuck a fan. That's what's happening. That's what's happening. By being one of the first Patreon subscribers. If we were to... If we were to spit roast you, who would you have at which side? Have you thought about it? I don't know. I don't know. I'm just purely based on how well you condition your head hair. I feel like you've got a better, like, better kept package downstairs. Haven't we talked about this before on the pod? Why the fuck have you talked about this already, man? Trimming bush? Bit roasting dang? Oh, right. No, no, no. Trimming bush. I felt like, did we talk about it with Barrett? We did. That was the first thing we talked about, as a matter of fact. And that was kind of like... That was like the one serious episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got serious about bush. Wait, I didn't... So what was the outcome there? That was unclear to me. Who's on what end? Bro, you're getting sucked off by me, I guess. I guess. Appearance is deceived. I feel like the vast majority of my kind of manicuring energy is directed at my general head area at the expense of everything from the neck down. I am very, I will admit, I am a shockingly hairless man. And that is, it's been my burden to bear. I feel like, yeah, follicularly we're the opposites. You're all top, no bottom. I'm all bottom, no top. Have you got back hair up?

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Yeah, no back, but like chest, all the front of my body is like Bigfoot. Shit. But like backwards, like I got a pretty hairy ass, but like, yeah, no back. Yeah, I'm rocking a swamp horse. What's a swamp horse? I guess it's a sweaty ass, isn't it? But it's also hairy. Oh, right. Nice. Nice. So you got a bopper. This feels like a waste of a generational mind. Yeah. We have a rare audience. with uh with someone whose finger is chronically on the pulse i feel like we haven't really introduced you do you want to do you want to do that actually what do i say what do i say what do you represent who do you who do you um i'm the fan club that's it all right cool what about yeah but you know what's your multi-hyphenate stack uh the the stack is pretty big to be fair Day job is video stuff. Ultimately, I would have haunted myself a filmmaker first. But as a result of that being such like tarnished world, I guess music and events have to happen too. And some writing in between. Can you talk about who you're making videos for on record? Oh, shit. Actually, this is kind of funny. Maybe this might have to get a couple of cow noises. But I'm potentially going to be editing the next two-shell music video. I don't know if I do this. Oh, that's good. But yeah, I don't... No one big. Can I give you a tip for the two-shell thing? Yeah. You make it... Just make it sick. I don't really... I'm not going to get the job now because I don't really fuck with their style. Like, I don't really like Blender and shit like that. I think that's kind of their vibe. I think this is more Rob's... I mean, they've fallen off pretty hard as well. Did you hear that Mums Calling song that they did earlier this year? I kind of stopped paying attention to them. It's bad. It's very bad. I feel like they had a formula and they abandoned it very quickly in favour of trying to be more popular. Let's be real. Angel Rockets are in their position. I mean, it's on its way, isn't it?

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It was on its way. There was like bicep is like over mono for heads is over mono for heads is two shell, two shell for heads is Andrew Rocket tweet. Maybe even that was your tweet. I can't remember. I'm not an avid tweeter. Yeah, as I've learned. As I've learned. I thought you were an avid tweeter. So I was really excited to go through your entire Twitter history. I'm kind of scared about my digital footprint. Not out of like... job prospects and shit like that just because i'm like it's okay that's okay that's why we're here is more the fear of leaving a trail of cringe i don't know because i like the like super old school cringe like i don't i don't hate that uh nah that's bullshit too i just i just eradicate everything what's super old school cringe well i wasn't i wasn't active on twitter in like 2012 either but i guess i would have been into a lot less cool stuff you have to be into not cool stuff at some point we will go through it And now I'm just so briefly cool. Except UMK. That's true. I don't know. I feel like you kind of have a flawless track record. I feel like the most formative band in the band that you refer to almost on a daily basis being Test Icicles attests to your unnerving voice. Have I said that to you? No, no, no. Rob. I was going to say, yeah. Yeah, man. Still the best. Had them on last week. Do you fuck with test icicles, Dom? What does that mean to you, that band? Well, yeah. My, like, dad's favorite band is The Damned. And so a lot of the kind of, like, kooky 70s and 80s shit I kind of got into before kind of discovering the stuff that I like. I mean, The Damned, that's a cool dad's favorite band. That's, like, pretty... I don't know what my dad's is, to be honest, but he's, like, a Dylan and Neil Young guy, you know? And that shit's great as well, but The Damned is cool as fuck. I actually bought my dad the... Bob Dylan autobiography. I can't remember if it's an autobiography or just some biography for Christmas a few years ago and he did not fuck with it. He was like, why have you come? Yeah, yeah. And I didn't know that he wasn't a Dylan. You just assume that every middle-aged guy, every dad is a Dylan. Yeah, no, not at all. Not at all. But that's like assuming every guy in his mid-20s is a Dean Blunt guy. It's actually just not true. I feel like...

14:38-16:57

Most people will be like, this is unlistable. Well, I don't know. I think that's purely because he hasn't had the reach to have been heard by every single mid-20s guy. I think he's fundamentally irresistible to every single person going through any slightly mysterious melancholy phase. I think Dean Blunt is waiting to be discovered by the entire 25-year-old population. He's in the wings. He's just waiting for the cue. I think a lot of girls like team blonde. And if there's one thing we can all agree on, fellas. Even the ladies, yeah. So what kind of chicks you into? Oh, man, I'm really, like, losing my kind of, like, fucking bro roots right now. I don't know how to be funny. I mean, I find myself, like, just rushing to be genuine and so, like, eagerly. I don't know. Yeah, like, first and foremost, the vibe's just got to be there. Like, that's it. hell yeah rob just instantly bust you yeah man you've ruined my you've ruined my at the thought of an emotional connection with a with a quote that's cool man i see a lot of that i see a lot of that um in the in on the horizon for you the second you lock down this two shell music video they will they'll fly and the emotional connection will be planned to Actually, I think on multiple occasions, I've kind of had like opportunities arise from cloud-based things and like fumbled it every single time. I don't believe that's the case. You mentioned this to me last week. But I'm just saying we've all been there on multiple occasions, you know, we've all been there. it's a numbers game man you have to accost every even remotely effeminate and not a feminine looking person um you physically can and have you seen that uh that who guy the guy on the like autistic riz guy on tiktok do you want to do yeah can you do a reenactment i was just i was literally i literally just had dinner with she's in berlin too nice

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there you go oh he's a lovely lad lovely boy but yeah i mean we actually had quite a long conversation about his tiktok riz so there you go this does it work for him yes sweet actually wait he's able to he's able to i think in sort of like marketing terms this is you have so you have um reach you have engagement and you have conversion and i think the ultimate form of conversion is translating your riz reach to um uh a clam type scenario Would that be accurate to say? And is that what this person is doing? I'm talking sliz. I'm talking clunge. I'm talking minge. I'm talking gash. You never heard that? I've never heard that. I haven't heard that before, dude. Cat flaps. You know how like some... Are you fucking married? Functionally, yes, but not in practice. You gotta... Wait, what's that? It's a not relationship. For the listener, I just pulled up. I just pulled up my Riz ring. Is there going to be a platform pivot to video? That's like the next thing. You've got to get a stage set. Yeah, basically, it's just like doing, well, this is real inside baseball, doing all the video stuff for like your kind of standard podcast filming. Let's get out the weeds. Let's get back on the court. I feel like we digressed from the matter of Klan. We digressed from talking about you, Dom. Most importantly, Danglord. That's it. Summer Splash. Everybody's talking about it, but what is it? My band. What's the actual splash? I don't know. But everyone's talking about it. It's like an homage to Dennis. Bobby Gillespie. What's wrong with him? Bobby Gillespie fucked the keyboardist from Felt, who also played in Primal Scream. Sexually? No, he didn't pay him for like 20 years, then he just like died in his tome, an alcoholic. No, no, Martin Duffy, the keyboardist from Felt. Where did you buy the air freshener? It smells like Pepsi. Oh, man.

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I was so not ready for this. Jesus. Back on track. Back on track. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And we've got no interest in Israel-Palestine. Well, not to out-MK, but he did declare it Rizrael versus Galestine, which I like a lot. And on that base, to be fair, the climate was slightly different. I've taken a much more somber, sort of non-committal, lip sealed type stance. There were a lot less dead kids when you said it. It was at an acceptable level. But you know what? Do you guys remember that Palestine knockoff? Palestine brand? I think pretty sure I used to have one. I used to wear that hoodie a lot. With like zero... understanding of the actual political situation like i think i know i'm not i actually know a bit about it now whereas back then i was just like this i want to be i'm still ignorant but i wore it to um amnesia scanner did a free show at the ica at the end of 2016 and that was my like first london club experience that wasn't going to like a freshers night and it really fucking scared me oh and then did they did they not let me in but i was kind of like oh people are gonna like you know, be my friend and tell me I'm cool for her. And it didn't happen. I was kind of like just throwing off that whole world for a long time. That's okay. I have the same feeling about the podcast. People are going to tell me I'm cool. And like the opposites happen. Death Rowettes. Everything about this is an exercise in humiliation. I'm embarrassed to be doing this. And I feel like just, just, I don't have the luxury of, of letting cringe kind of fade into oblivion because now there is a permanent record. And I think I've accumulated enough, enough. um enemies and and haters and um phonies in my slip you got haters uh thousands uh i i feel like it's going to be held against me in a way that um the the full consequences of i i may never recover from you got to watch your words dang lord you got to watch what you're there's some snakes in this in this in this damn industry it gets i've been i've been called out for my words before

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Pardon me. I've been 0% rattler. Are you going sober as well as not nothing? I am, yeah. How's that? The sobriety? Good. I come in and out of it a lot because I have to do it because of skin condition that I have. Last time I was the MK in Amsterdam, I had a few brews then, but I'd like... I'm like 97, 98% at the time. No booze or drugs. I'll dabble once in a while when the moment takes me. It's good. It's good, yeah. Makes life a lot more straightforward. But lots of things are quite boring. I was considering doing the TT Balor Bonanza next week sober just to save money. I don't know if I can hack it. I think you can. Just drink a big coffee and have a nap before you do it. So you're double-heading? Yeah, I'm going to double-head. Actually, I guess it works. Because we're eight till one, and then they're till six. I'm quite aberrant of a fold. I've not been there. My brother went for Nick Leon a year ago, and he went on his own. And he's a super chill guy. And he just got kicked out. Like they, they, like the bouncer's literally just like picked him up and like, you're dealing. I think just cause he's like, was wearing a hoodie and has a beard. And was dealing. That's insane. All right. Well, new, new, uh, shouts out your brother, by the way, big reason this podcast exists. Um, fuck fold. Yeah. Fuck fold. Get him back in there. Get back in there. Interestingly, both the glove and fold both owned by the same people. So you're, uh, You're now supporting an enemy of the part twice in one night. But that's okay. That's okay. We're now BDS for Gormsell. At Gormsell on Instagram, G-O-U-R-M-C-E-L-L. Am I getting that right? Yeah, that's right. I kind of doxxed him and he was really unhappy about that.

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but i was like if you're gonna post fucking thousands of pictures of what every dj with 3 000 followers like eats you're gonna like take it to the next level man that genuinely blew me yeah when you sent it to me i spent about half an hour getting really panicked about it and then i then i decided it was sick after that and now now i'm very pro that is not an exaggeration by the way me and rob are having like kind of a spirited uh we're just like messing each other like quite spiritedly yeah i brought that into the fold and i just went silent for like a good chunk of time and i assumed he just like entered a fugue state of some kind are you guys foodies but the furthest from that said i whipped up something damn nice today i will say i kind of went in let me let me lay it down for you So you get a little bit, you shred a little bit of chicken, you shred a little bit of cabbage, throw some kimchi in. You get some of this Japanese mayo. I forget what the fuck it's called. A little dash of mustard. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. A little bit of Worcestershire sauce, some garlic, probably forgetting at least one element. You smush that bitch up, throw it on a little, throw it on some toasted bread, and then you proceed to eat it using your mouth. Yeah, that sounds good. It went down a damn storm, let me tell you. It sounds macro-friendly as well. No, she better believe it. And I say this, I haven't lifted a weight in fucking years, which I can't say for your ass. I would do a fucking dang workout. We need to do a workout. Dang workout is fucking calves on Friday, and I still haven't recovered. That happened? Oh, god damn. Hell yeah. what's your split um i used to i used to be push pull legs now then i was kind of like full body for a while and now i'm kind of um i think i'm consistent enough i'm happy just doing like one one or two like compound movements and a couple accessories and i just know i'm chilling because i know i'm gonna make it oh damn what how many times a week five sometimes six

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You're five days a week. Fucking hell, bro. It shows, bro. It shows. Right. We're going to do workout. We're going to do workout. I'm cool with this. This will relax me. I was at this wedding on holiday with my PT. He's not my PT, but he is my PT. Basically, he's trained to be a PT, and I'm his case study, and I have to do all these vlogs and shit with him as part of it. for a second. Um, and he was like, yeah, we had this exact conversation where I've been hitting the split he's given me, which is essentially like, it's like, uh, um, it's, it's like upper body, lower body core. So it's not quite push pull, but it's all, but it's all for like three ways. Yeah. Uh, yeah, this I'm not, he is. I'm not, not yet. Anyway, I'd like, I'd like to get there, but. i'm not there yeah i got way too much of a sweet tooth as well i love refined sugar way too much honestly like i i know i'm like not an addict because of how much i love sugar you know like that kind of chills me out but also stresses me out i don't know but sugar is bad yeah man so wait so you're i think five six times a week an hour each session or are you shorter than that i don't i don't think you gotta go time-based that that will freak you out too much like as long as you get the movements down it's good but i'm big i'm a big believer interesting stuff too what um steps your kegel pb uh like uh like a hip thrust i don't really do that very much no like kegel that's sort of like yeah no i've i've seen like women enjoying themselves doing that yeah you ever do that in the gym just take up as many squat racks as you can and just sort of start with your brain you know i actually i was i actually have i've listened to cloud farm in the gym before the i listened to the gem walton app and i was how's that going how's that going down when you actually was doing squats uh it was pretty good it was pretty good because like squats are kind of like meditative you know it's like you you're you're in the battle is before you put the weight on your back

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yeah yeah yeah that's that's where i'm at anyway once once you're in there well i'm i'm like i'm all free weights at home and i'm now figuring out if i'm gonna start actually going to the gym like four times a week and start basically and start doing like accessories as well i need to figure out i need to make a decision uh but we will see what's your macros then what what uh what percentage protein um i basically just hit up whatever like meat is in the reduced section and then i go okay but i also i'm 100% saving myself for like you know weekend weekend freedom i'd say i'm like six weeks out from like actually looking good but i i get like two weeks deeper i'm like it's just not worth it yeah maybe one i think that's also that's the other thing you have to you have to weigh up with is like it's actually just not worth it What are you talking about? What are you talking about? This is incomprehensible. What could being a shredded Adonis not be worth it? If I know I'm going to see... It's so hard. If I know I'm going to a TT all-center chase at night, I've got to get a freaky pump on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But back to seriousness, unless you've got the supreme genetics, it's just not worth it. It's so fucking hard. I got myself down two years ago to almost pushing on 10 stone and I still wasn't even close. It was ridiculous. Were you strong at that point as well? Yeah, I was stronger than I am now. That's kind of what's crazy about it. I've slacked so much in the last two years and I still wasn't even nowhere near what I would have needed. I honestly don't know what I could have done. I think, I think also like my nutrition wasn't quite right then. I think it's like, it's getting, it's getting better now. Um, but I'm also like, I'm now in the thing where I found out I've got high cholesterol. So I'm like, I also having to like factor that in. Um, did you get that like bad happened to you? No, no. I just like randomly was able to get it checked and I did know like, yeah, you've got high cholesterol. I don't want to, I don't want to know. Yeah. It's difficult. It's difficult. I'm undecided about whether or not I'm going to do anything about it.

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so far i've not done anything about it who's the person on all center dang you think you could most easily pulverize with your fists i don't want to disrespect i don't think all centers got particularly jacked roster maybe maybe maybe tim was the strongest this would be my guess yeah you know you know tim but throws hands he just looks tough um yeah no disrespect to jam but it might be here No, no, no. What you've got to forget is that Jen's a massive DDR head. Yeah, but if you've been in Carro Carabinito, you just, like, can't be strong. It's all about mental toughness, mental agility. That's no shade to them. I like them a lot. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm going to go pee. I've got a tiny planet. This is going to happen a few times. I'm sorry. That's all right, man. Let's see what happens. Okay, time out. Well I've been chilling down in the caliphate I got love for the Stamford Hill Jews I got time for the elephant Spaniards All the people in between them too I don't got time for that geopolitics I walk around and I think about the pics of the tiny girls In the tiny clothes Princesses waiting for a call. Rock and roll princesses waiting for a call. Waiting, waiting for a call. Well, I got an air freshener that smells like Pepsi. And I got beef with Bobby Gillespie. With neuroplastic, baby, resist misery. I try to avoid the foods that ain't no good for me. Ring, ring, ring a Rosie. I'll spend silly evenings thinking bout Silly crap. Rock and roll princesses waiting for a call. Rock and roll princesses waiting for a call. Waiting, waiting for a call. Did you kiss the DJ last night?

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I got trouble on my mind again Yellow belly pork stains Rock and roll princesses waiting for me [redacted address] I got trouble on my mind again I'm not even nervous, I don't know why. Yeah, that's hard, man. Hey, guys. And as soon as you're ending, you know what's going on? Yeah. When you talk to Sean Thoreau and Tim, how was that? Actually, they both were wrong. I mean, obviously, I'm the fucking biggest Tim Dickwriter in the world. And Sean was sick. I could tell they both, like, kind of i appreciate it because i could tell they'd both like preps to like do me a favor you know i mean like i had questions prepared obviously i kind of like tangents that i imagined would come up yeah we ended up speaking for like three hours and when i was like going through the like recording to figure out how i'd actually write it all down I was like, damn, there's actually a lot of fire. There wasn't really much to forget, but he's just one of those guys. Maybe it's because he was at the beginning of his day and he's drinking loads of coffee and he's just super self-assured anyway. Yeah. Yeah, he was just ranting. Tim was a bit more chill with it, but I think that's his demeanor in real life to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that the guy who wrote that fuckboy book? Is it a good book? Yeah, it's good. i took a second to come around i had to like when i was halfway in it kind of like clicked i think it's when he started talking about little b and i like seeing the phrase the name will be in print and that kind of move and from then on i was i was all internet but it took me a second for it to like for it to make sense to me i actually didn't know before i spoke to him like how fucking rich it made him

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Actually, I thought he got a relatively small advance. He got like 200k. Seriously? For your first book, that's insane. That's wild. I thought I saw the number and it was much smaller, like 10, 20k or something. Because there's this other dude, I can't remember his name, but he got really upset because he said that Sean took his style or whatever. He was just being a bitch. Was he called Tao Man? No, I think Talon, I think him and Talon are friends now. I don't know. The style of being an Asian guy. This might just be some like parasocial, like me wanting this shit to happen. I'm pretty sure they're like down with each other. Rob was talking about this being an Asian guy who's literally married. You like Talon? Talon rocks, man. Yeah. I haven't like kept up very, very actively. Like the last, I kind of attempted trip and like didn't do that much for me, but everything up to that point, like I really, really fucked with it. Yeah, I'm not a massive psychedelic head. What's your substance experience been like? With psychedelics or in general? In general. I'd say I've got a more healthy relationship with substances than alcohol. And it's pretty much always been good. I remember alcohol is a substance. Oh, okay. Yeah. And if you want to talk about that, there's numbers. Wait, what numbers? The suicide hotline. Just fucking do it, man. Just fucking do it. Do I kill myself? Do it, like, right now. Actually, that would make, at the end of the podcast. That would make the part fucking epic. But we have to fill an hour before you pull the trigger. Okay. Well, no, surely we got to do the Patreon part as well. Is this going to be a free episode? We'll do a self-immolation Patreon special. You know, like when the Japanese guys stab themselves with the sword. In the same way that the pod began with vomit, we'll end with self-immolation. I think it's super dignified. What's it, Harakiri? Yeah, that's cool. So, the Stamford Hill Jews, where are they on?

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Harry Carey. I imagine they're not down with it. You reckon? I think, like in most religions, suicide is not cool, right? I don't know. I don't know. I think a lot of... And you're good with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. That's true. What are you doing with it? Just saying what's up. Just saying what's up. You're just saying what's up? Are you like, are you fellas got dread? Have you seen that? Because they do. They do. They do. They're better dressed than most of Hackney's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say, like, kind of... Who the fuck are you talking about? The Jews in Stamford Hill. The Stamford Hill Jews. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The real drippers. I always... For some reason, whenever I leave Houston Station, there's quite often, like, Hasidic guys stood outside, and they all seem to not have smartphones. They've just got brick phones, which I really rate. Yeah. And I think they're doing it as, like, kind of an aesthetic decision, like how girls, like, carrying around digital cameras again now. I think it's a similar thing. I really believe these guys are, like, they're on the cusp of always having to. Did you like it when I said Goldbrick phones? No, because you had to sit twice. What's a Goldbrick phone? No, no, it's good to know. No, it's just I'm curious because you shout out so many people in that song. I'm just trying to spread love, man. So I feel like we've spoken about what you do eat, but we haven't spoken about the foods that are bad for you. 100% just the foods I already eat. Before you do that, can we just, a little sidebar, speaking of Hasids and people tangentially and directly involved in music, this happened, I think I might have told Rob this, but just for the record, I guess, like maybe a year ago, me, Sean, Tim, Ayub, and jordan uh we're at i think it was the princess of wales or something just whatever like i think it was like a sunday evening um and as the night kind of like progressed there was this there was this hasidic dude up way past his bed actually it probably wouldn't have been sunday it probably wouldn't have been a saturday realistically hasidically speaking uh and just like as the as the evening kind of yeah he sort of like he started like

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hovering closer and closer like he just like really really incrementally came closer and closer to our table in particular there may be like four or five like active tables sort of like outside and we'd all kind of like clocked him and sort of take a note of it and sort of like chortle about a little bit and then at a certain point I guess he like he like worked out the courage to like make an approach and like his attempt at sort of like brokering a kind of connection was to like really really sort of like stammeringly pull out a cigarette like and it was like clearly like the first packet he'd ever ever bought yeah with the intention of like sparking some kind of like of like some kind of like interaction and um he like offered us cigarettes and like i guess a couple of us like like took him up took him up on it and uh we sort of had this this other dude that we were with we just like randomly ran into him on the night had had worked for a time uh he was volunteering on the gaza strip in some capacity so we had a lot of sort of antipathy towards Zionism. And it clearly sort of like, like he encountered a lot of hostages in his time as well. And he was like quiet, sort of like blunt, borderline, like, like mean to him. Nothing, nothing like, like, like directly cruel, but just like really transparently kind of like teasing him and being like, yo, shoot me back to your family. Wife's probably waiting for you. Your eight children are probably going hungry right now. What are you doing? And it became clear sooner or later. I'm paraphrasing. I'm paraphrasing. Not exaggerating, but definitely paraphrasing. And it became clear that the dude was there because he was looking to suck dick. Oh, shit. It was at the Prince of Wales, I think. I could be wrong. It might have been another, whatever. Do you rate the Prince of Wales more than Anchor and Hope? I've never been to Anchor and Hope. I haven't been living. There was a D&B rave at the Anchor and Hope yesterday. I went down. We all went for fireworks night. We were hoping to set up fireworks on the marshes. And there was just this mad D&B rave at the Anchor and Hope. And I kind of dipped because I was not feeling good. But I think everyone else enjoyed it. And it's a good pub in E5, I reckon. It's so good.

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I went there about six months ago on a bank holiday weekend and it was quite quiet apart from what I think was either like some kind of traditional Irish function they were doing in there. And there was this woman DJing off of two laptops by what I'm assuming she was doing was just playing individual songs on either laptop. And she was playing all these like traditional Irish songs and she was called Scatty Mary. And she just had it like printed out. Yeah. It was so sick. I was like, I hope I never see it again because it was such a singular thing. i was just in there watching the football it was great um i was i was i was there last weekend and i everyone was like we're gonna leave and go to the railway tavern and i was like you know what i'm gonna uh i'm gonna i'm gonna and uh then my friend texted me like five minutes later like oh we're at the railway tavern and uh what's his name paul mescal is that and uh yeah the uh the like hot guy from mike he was in the i've known people uh personally who know him as like a perv In a way that I think is cool, but they don't. Okay. What's a cool pub? Like, he just kind of goes up to people at parties like, do you want to have a threesome? Is what I've heard. Right. Okay. Oh, so he's kind of, he's hanging out with the pubs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. But he's... Oh, okay. I didn't realise. I didn't realise. Because he's not in the realm of celebrity to, you know, not frequent Hackney pubs. Do you think? Interesting. So he's going up to people in pubs and being like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. But who is this? Is anyone succumbing to the Mez race? I don't know anyone who's personally had sex with Paul Mezcal. Oh, I call it Paul Mezcal. I'm going to stick with that. Yeah. That's a... Oh, shit. Okay, sorry. You're moving to... Yeah, that's top secret. That's top secret. That has like... I want people to know who I'm going to go with. Break from the Exit or Center, to be honest. I'll bet that one. Oh, really? Oh, no, no, no, it's fine. You can be the one to leak it then, but I just don't want people to find out who I'm going to be working for because I think it could be a bit problematic. I don't know who you're working for, so that works out for me. Well, it's Lockheed Martin, so that's the problem. Are you actually in real? Well, yeah, so that's why everyone's like, oh, what are you doing? I'm just going to work my album batch. It's Lockheed Martin.

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Because, like, I don't know if you think about it, but, like, you need, like, a lot of, like, architects and engineers to, like, build all the facilities that they, like, test the weapons in. And, like, because of the Hollywood... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, because of the Hollywood writers' strike, they've had to move all the weapons testing to... So, yeah, like, for that reason, like, yeah, that's why I'm doing that. And, like, the Czech's fat and, like, my living costs are, like, fucking tiny. So, like, if it all works out, I'll be able to buy a flat in London, but it's not going to work. I fully thought it was just because you're on some garage. They do it all for the clout. Always run in their mouth, but they've never been about. I splashed niggas in and out, in and out. Clout is killing our people. They do it for UK health. Clout is killing our people. They do it for UDN. Clout is killing our people. They move like the groupies, them. Sending shots are snapped, but in real life don't use this gang. I will say.

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