Episode 51: "MY TEPID SUCCESS" feat. other joe *PREVIEW — FULL EPISODE ON PATREON*

you are listening to the free version of cloud farm for the full episode sub to patreon geezer swear down there is like reams and reams and reams of us just going in on you i've been really concerned about my aura recently dotty bayless's shaver is actually in my bathroom really yeah yeah i can't believe you got me this watch So you're on the record as being white. Yeah, big time white, yeah. All caps. Like, for real, fuck you. I'd strongly disavow the David Bowie pedophilia. That's a bloody outright, kiddies! I'm a big curveball head. Do you ever, like, cross the road if you are walking behind a woman for too long? I, like, definitely identified as a care lord for a while, yeah. Dub techno one-hit wonder. Give me back my headphones. This is Adam Levine sculpting this love. Speak to us of a band by the name of The Killers. It's time for replica. Ramin' trees, got 20 dirty bitches down on the knees Water, water, H2O, no big strings, no HBO Tomato, tomato, potato, these whole days won the fat boy motto Please let me use your bottle, hefty bitches is my motto Here you get on top, quicker, I think you might break my bottle I'll not get mad, I'll be softer than I bitches Can you stupid bitches, cannot wait, fuck your wife

When was the last time you got the like rush of like the first time you listened to Radiohead or the first time you heard Dasha Nekrosova open her mouth? Say Cloudfarm, say Cloudfarm, say Cloudfarm, say Cloudfarm, say Cloudfarm. Say Cloudfarm, listen to Cloudfarm. I'm sorry guys. Have you ever listened to the pub before? Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah. I know the themes, I don't know, I don't know all the words, but you know, I know all the themes. You know the songs, you know the songs. It reminds me of... This is like a really corny arm. Speaking of Aura. For the listener, I just poured a Coke Zero all over my crotch. Is it a mango Coke Zero? No, they've just got this little mango band around the top. It's very confusing. the last time something hit me like radiohead is crazy i don't know i feel like i'm reacting to music kind of like that all the time in a weird way i feel like i fell out of like love with it maybe for a minute where like just i don't know like because when you make music it's like listening to all the music is kind of a reflection of yourself as well and so like at times it can be like quite difficult to consume stuff especially really good stuff you know i used to have it with like king cruel when i was like really young it's like this person's like my age like so precocious yeah incredible and like it became quite difficult even though objectively it was amazing like yeah it becomes quite difficult to like consume it but i think now that i'm just like onk and like yeah chopped and like like like washed up it's the best it's the best the best component it's sick yeah it's actually amazing just like hear like some cracked out 17 year old making beats and just be like this isn't an indictment on like me or my identity like this is just someone else being lit and like hearing two halls and be like that should be me that's 32 years old that's the thing it's like yeah it's like i'm too too old to be like a i mean i shouldn't say that like a like a sound clown bro it's over it's over yeah i could do it i could still do it

Me and David kind of had that last night. We went to go see our friends and their friends play kind of like college rock that you've heard before, but it was so much fun. Shout the fuck out. And we were both just like, we have to listen to Everlong. Yeah, such a good song. But not in a kind of like, we're making Everlong cool. Yeah, yeah. Have you listened to, there's a guy on YouTube who does an Everlong and ExoTool life mashup? It's insane. It's really good. Yeah. highly recommend that yeah but i put i put on nevermind afterwards which is like something which i think would have like taken a lot of effort to like do spontaneously in especially in the kind of like left book era yeah yeah it is funny how like it's like kind of in a weird way as well like a lot of new bands like sort of sometimes like a lot of their genius is like just who they decide to rip off yeah almost like djing in a sense where it's like digging for a really good band to rip off and then be like our swag is gonna like a lot of people just like every four years like we're gonna do joy division yeah again like we're gonna rock out like that and like yeah um what do you think you got into like being a like music head in the same way you're into like politics and culture was it this kind of like horizontal distribution or was it what like as in like just consuming a lot of different stuff but like via kind of like like groups which has a kind of groups which have like consensus but isn't necessarily like i like gatekeeping like pitchfork model yeah that's a really interesting question i think like i got like i was really into like probably the first like music i really liked was like stuff from like the oc soundtrack and then so that was like my gateway into like pitchfork and like all that kind of stuff what what bands would that be it's like uh that's like spoon that's like rooney or like like they have like mojave 3 um as well which is like they're kind of weirdly tasteful for like an oc era band but they had a really good like music supervisor yeah mojave 3 yeah they actually like score a really iconic scene um our friend sean who makes music is dj rich did all oc songs mix at one point he's like

obsessive obsessive oc head i used to like have a radio show in lockdown where i did like songs from each season like in a mix that's fucking sick we should me and me and sean should link up you guys should yeah that's it's too bad you didn't link him yeah um but yeah like and then i think like from that it was like listening to like mainly pitchfork stuff but then like i think it's always like kind of at a cool moment where like like you have like your experience where you feel in your heart that you want to zag with consensus and like for me hilariously like that experience was like really fucking with like the childish gambino mixtape i was like that is just like the ultimate like contrarian contortion yeah yeah to arrive at that point it was just like it was even before i clocked that like being a contrarian is like cool or whatever it's just like I was like listening to the records and genuinely like in my heart feeling like he was saying some real shit. The people from Pitchfork are just being like, this is fucking whack. Because of the internet. Yeah, this is really whack. Yeah, because of the internet. Yeah, yeah. I don't think I like that into that record, but like there's one called Camp that's like insanely good. I think like probably if they revisit it now, you might give Camp like not a two or something. They gave it something horrific. I remember that. They like slated it. yeah they hated him and i think it's also so fire to be an artist that like has like four twos at the start of your career and then like a nine yeah like in the middle i think that's dope can you can you run back a couple of childish gambino bars from from that era the ones that really touched your heart There's like, so I'm not, I'm not going to do like any, any of his raps. Cause I mean, he also was like a bit, he was an edgelord. He was. He was a lot of rapes. He said something like, uh, like he had a line where he was talking about like giving head to a Japanese girl and it like tasted like a tsunami or something. Cause the tsunami had just happened. Because of her wetness. Yeah. Yeah. It was like dastardly like, but, and he did it over.

the jamie xx remix of adele's rolling in the beat which is like so funny this actually sounds really good it's amazing it's really good it's a dope track but um there's like the point that you're making was that it was like problematic for him to talk about like being sexually attracted to a japanese woman no i mean i he he didn't he was very i would not co-sign what he was saying about women i don't stand by childish in that way um but like the last track on his record camp it's kind of funny where he does this, like, you know, the last track on Kanye's first record where he like does the like story of how he got signed and stuff. And it's like nine minutes long or whatever. Like Charles Gambino does similar thing on the last track of camp where like, instead of. a thing about that it's like kind of like a beat is going and he does this like npr style essay about telling the girl from camp that he has a crush on her on like the bus home after they've like finished summer camp it's just like very touching it's like obviously so lame to be like 25 and talking about like your 12 year old crush or whatever but like i was like maybe like 16 or 17 like listening to it just being like this is i can relate to Telling a girl you have a crush on her and she just never talks to you again. Maybe that's why it never resonated. Yeah, literally. That was it. The one thing I always found weird about the... Kanye first album nine minute thing is the bit where he talks about moving from Chicago to New Jersey and he talks about buying a bed from Ikea and then very proudly states that he put it together himself and I'm like what else were you supposed to do this is pre-Task Rabbit Kanye that's so funny I love that Kanye outro for ages i wanted to do a mix of just kanye outros because he's got some of the greatest like ever um what what would you have then i would have that i would have um blame game um with like chris rock is it chris rock yeah yeah yeah um run away obviously um and i think it's um the one off um yeezus that has like uh it's like i think it's um

i want to sing it uh it's like the beanie man sample like right at the end of um uh uh the one where he's like can you park my bends in the club what's that track does anyone know that oh send it up if you know that track yeah he's got a lot i mean yeah um i'd have a lot of yeah i'd have to enter the archives but those are off the top of my head um sometimes like i like to just say to myself like i can't believe you got me this watch Easy Tommy. I wish I knew that. I'm like, I'm like, Kanye is like a huge void for me. For whatever reason, I just like never was the biggest. I recognize his like, his contribution. Yeah. I very benevolently recognize that. Yeah. And he has like a bunch of like amazing songs, but I just never, I don't think I've ever, besides Pablo for whatever reason, which I really, Pablo is amazing. Yeah. I don't think I've ever listened to a full Kanye album, like top to bottom. It's crazy. I feel like that was the, the, the Farsi embargo you made in. you know in being such a good curator is that you have to like refuse all these enormous albums all the time the prestige albums yeah listening to like like the uh what's the old time road like soundcloud like yeah you're like not you're like not listening to like like my dark twisted fantasy because you're like too busy listening to this it sounds fucking like teenager from north carolina yeah like 14 year old who found fruity leaves yeah yeah yeah no it's it's not even it's just kind of specifically it's just like weird i think i don't know what it is i feel like we talked about this on the pump i'd be curious like about it because it's like i feel like because now as an artist like he comes with so much baggage even like what do you do do you do something ah he just he just he just made bad music yeah yeah that was the problem the music started being bad yeah the sentiment was really good yeah everything else he did outside of the music was quite acceptable yeah yeah yeah that was the issue um but yeah like i don't know yeah he like comes with but it's like because i'm a really big drake fan and like um hell yeah yeah certified pedophile certified pedophile

Certified pedophile. Oh, yeah. I'm a massive Drake fan. Certified pedophile. Certified pedophile. Joe's going to do the draw. not doing that oh wait other Joe editor Joe yeah certified pedophiles our editor is called Joe oh okay so yeah and they'll do the like that's dope yeah cool but yeah like I love Drake like I'm a big Drake fan and it's like this funny experience come on where it's like what you want me to do bars no I want you to touch my fist sorry yeah straight up and like the experience of like having like one of like an artist that you've like shared so much like you know I was listening to Drake when like you know like relationships and you know all this kind of stuff and then you have this experience where all of a sudden like you have you like are expected to like stop fucking with or it's like cringe to fuck with them or like you know they say fucked up shit they do fucked up shit or whatever and like you know like my sister was like giving me a really hard time about being a Drake fan, I was like, I know you don't listen to Kendrick Lamar. And then the dick photo drops and you feel vindicated. Yeah, exactly. He's got a huge heart. I'm just like, at my family dinner, showing my sister Drake's dick. Blowing it up at the dinner table. Well, yeah. How could he be whack? Kicking your dad off the head of the table. Just Drake's dick sits here. You put the phone up. yeah no um but yeah yeah it's and like yeah kanye is really tough because like that was like the artist that like i really like did the like five beats a day for three summers like that was like something that i thought was like very inspiring and like very cool and so then like you know should have made it six Yeah, he should. Imagine if he did six beats. Maybe he'd accept everyone. Yeah, yeah. It was the sixth beat. Six million beats a day. I didn't hear that. Whatever that was, I didn't catch that. I feel like I kind of want to walk that back. I wanted to ask.

Oh, Joe, can you say fuck Hitler again? Yeah. Just to negate the joke. I disavow Hitler. Like, for real. Fuck Hitler. On the record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Straight up. Fuck Hitler. It's weird that you have to keep doing that. But as far as... It's funny, like, I... Maybe when I was younger, like, a little bit at this point, like, I listened to music entirely guilt-free. I don't feel, like, beholden to kind of, like, larger kind of, like... cultural like external pressures to like reconsider the music i'm listening to unless like someone has done something like i mean there's there's obviously exceptions like if someone's like an out now fucking just like monster pedophile or whatever and i can't like not think about it when i'm listening to their music i think so too okay what qualifies as monster pedophile the lost profits guy oh okay i can't have to stop this into lost profits no but it would take i feel like what if thug was a monster pedophile yeah yeah that would suck There's a statute of limitations on it that no one wants to talk about because people aren't coming for David Bowie or the police or anything like that. It was a different time. What did David Bowie do? they're all fucking they're all just fucking 14 year olds 16 year olds yeah like they just yeah hey legal age of consent in australia yeah yeah on the australia tour so it was oh yeah i'd strongly disavow the david bowie pedophilia just frankly thank god thank god just want to be really clear with that yeah and all pedophilia that's what we're gonna leave that's what we're gonna leave this interview with yeah make it more sweeping um Sorry, I cut you off. I mean, I just don't feel that beholden to the kind of like external kind of whatever, like the status quo. I'm kind of a maverick when it comes to listening to music. It's an interesting vibe, right? Because it kind of does and doesn't matter all the time. When I was an undergrad composer, I had this really great lecture when I was studying at UC Berkeley. So I was in the States, which is important for the story. Oh, sick. I didn't know that. Yeah, I did a year there on exchange. It was the best. That's sick. But I had this really great composition lecturer who was pretty well regarded as a composer. And he did this lecture where he played a piece of music.

And it was like 12, maybe 15 minutes. I was pretty long. And it was just like, like wind noises kind of thing. And he's like, what does everyone think afterwards? And people are like, predictably, this is the problem with new composition. This is whack. This is lame, pretentious. Like, have you never heard of a string quartet? Like, you know, that kind of thing. Like people just uniformly thought it was whack. And then he's like, so this piece of music was recorded on September 12th, 2001 at Ground Zero. And then you like listen to it again. And like the emotional reaction in the room is like so different kind of thing. And like he, I think, I don't know if he coined the term like a spectral music, like the aspects of the music, like inform, like your understanding of it. But it's like funny how like, you know, the aspects. of, like, so much music, like, doesn't matter, like, it rocks, like, an Addison Rae song or whatever, like, but even then, for, like, people that are diehard Addison Rae fans, the aspects of who she's dating or whatever, I imagine, like, make it even juicier or whatever. Like, even for me, that... Completely agree, yeah, for Addison Rae. I mean, A, her dating life, yeah, obviously. Who is Addison Rae dating? Who's hitting that? She's, like, somber. What? Really? Having a boyfriend makes you not want to listen to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I'm out of chance, if I haven't got a chance, then what would I do? I think they're kind of like a plant couple. Yeah, true. I mean, he has a lot to gain. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Definitely, yeah. I've never listened to his music. I just know he's hot shit. He sucks. Yeah, okay, hot. But almost as much of what I find interesting about her is her shift from being like kind of a TikToker first into this kind of like more interesting. She's dope. Her record is fucking sick. It's really good. Yeah, it's so cool. But I think if she didn't have all that context, I would probably find the record less interesting. But that's also what I was trying to say about David earlier. I feel like if guys that you fucked with didn't say that you should listen to it, you'd probably just ignore it. Not be like, I'm contrarian and not going to like it. Wait, wait, what do you mean? What are you saying? I feel like as a result of, I don't know, the kind of like the shift that's meant that someone like Joe...

fucks with Addison Rae would make you more inclined to check it out. Not that you'd automatically disavow it. Of course, as with anyone, whether ambiently or actively, you take a measure of context. Of course it informs the way you're listening to music. I'm just saying that in terms of specific cases where a person is deemed immoral or whatever, or just taken out of the canon. I've never been a person to just feel an ethical me to... not listen to an artist or something yeah like in the specific instance or like and or like drake being like cringe or yeah like the whole this whole thing is also just like but also it's like part of it like people over invest in these people in like artists big time yeah i think so ultimately like even if even like if i think about like young thug or whatever like i'd like love like love like revere so much of his music but like ultimately like the dude is a source of extremely transcendental and special content but content nonetheless yeah yeah and it's moved me what it means but this it's listening to his music is not me like co-signing his life or his like behaviors or whatever i think in a weird way like sometimes like music that's made by like someone that like yeah is like weird or cringe or like they like do like i don't know not necessarily do things you don't agree with but like are just like yeah like kind of lame or whatever but if they like have a track that you like really fuck with i think sometimes that can make the bond like even stronger as you as the consumer where it's like you kind of like i think especially now like the economy and like being cool and like all your photos are blurry no one can tell if you're like pretty or not like it's like so alluring but it's like very like kind of whereas like i think and i think that's the reason why a lot of like like younger artists so like kind of more like like like forward thinking artists have their press shots where they kind of look busted or like stupid or whatever like it's kind of this like thing where like you know like dude don't you reckon like no it's true the kids are really going crazy for that with the cameron winter album

is he looking stupid they were like he's so handsome but he made himself look stupid yeah that was like so authentic yeah he's like i like i was wondering if like because people with it so hard about him i was wondering if he was putting it on like in rolling stone he's wearing like a pair of jordans that like it just looks so like random you know just like i like feel like cynically like you're like so annoying now i wrote with that really hard i like the idea that he's like i can do what i want i can do what i want it is cool yeah we talked to so um do you know quiet light yeah the quiet So she, I think, played a show with him and, like, interacted with him a little bit. I listened to that episode, I think. I listened to the clip of the episode that she was talking about. Dude, I love your clip. Yeah, you're here on the clip show. To be fair, like, I think, maybe I'm misremembering, but the impression that she kind of took away from that was that, like, it really isn't, like, a pose. And so maybe, like, we're just, like, imposing, like, a level of, like... calculatedness to it i mean she was predisposed that i adore him to one yeah true she is like the core demo for sure yeah yeah it is yeah funny though about like i used to think about this a lot like where especially in melbourne where it's like so small and like if you're like someone that's seen as like having like kind of like you're cool in the music scene or like people fuck with your music especially like if people internationally fuck with it there is like a tendency to be like sour grapes about it and like being younger and like you know looking up to people but also like feeling embarrassed that you're like 20 looking up to like a 27 year old who like is like basically you know they're not like famous or whatever they live in a small like small enough like city and then like kind of being a bit like that guy's fucking whack i met him at a party and he was mean you know whatever like you just kind of find a way to like sort of disavow this just a complete like blanket indictment of them as like yeah just because you're like just because you're jealous or like feel like like uncomfortable or whatever and the amount of times to me where i've like like i don't do it anymore like as much thankfully but like where i like wrote someone off in my head and then you meet them and they're just like

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