Episode 9: “THE WATCHTOWER” feat. Chanel Beads and colle *FULL EPISODE ON PATREON*

I hold it in. I think he, no, it's like more screaming, you know, than crying. So just kind of like rageful hysteria, but no tears? Yeah, sure. You ever see like the end of Brokeback Mountain where you're- No! No! That's cool. We're good. We're good. This podcast is just better if we talk about podcasts. Wait, are we the only people on? Yeah, but don't worry. I think you're just going to get covered. You're the only ones. Okay, cool. Yeah. We're doing kind of a POV, like, casting couch type. Greasy vibe. You want to check it out? What vibe? Yeah. The casting couch, greasy casting couch vibe. No, I cannot rest around it. You don't know what a casting couch is? No, I don't. Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob. I'll show you later. I've never, I've never. Or maybe that's what we could put on the back of the green screen. Podcasting couch. A couch. Oh, yeah. Just savage back shots. You're listening to Cloud Farm Back Shots. The worst and most back shotted podcast in the world. And we're with Chanel Beads. And this is a cold open. We didn't really have anything planned. Do you guys want to ask us any questions? Rob's eating an apple on my... It's good. It's like a small. What kind of apple is that? It's pissing me off. Why? I'm starting in a rough mood. Yeah, you're actually really annoying. No, I'm good. Whatever. Keep going. Let's start. As long as it's not a red apple. It is a red apple. What, you only fuck with Granny Smith's? I guess so. That's a crazy platform exclusive. I don't know. I feel like there's red apple. It's greener. Or we're mean. Oh, so we're going to throw hands. Fuck yeah. I've been saying we should do like a celebrity boxing thing for a while. But we're like celebrity, but you're not. Tim versus David was the agreed title fight. Who do you think would win in a fight? Organ tapes or MK?

We haven't decided what kind of fight. I haven't met him yet, IRL. You're going to have to squint a lot because he's easy to miss. It sounds like he would lose in a boxing match. Yeah, just flicking him proper. You guys know Flat Stanley? Is that a thing? Yeah, Flat Stanley. What's that? Is it the guy who lived in an envelope? He got flattened. And so, yeah, he lives in an envelope. Say no more. We're from Minnesota. You want to talk about that? No, I'm just joking. What are you running from? I'm looking at the show notes that Rob put together and the first thing I see is Shane called on. Not your call on, but Shane, the punctuation call on. So he's described your call on and he says, he's quoting you, I don't want to talk about our upbringings. Yeah, well it's a joke. What's the most boring? thing any interviewer can ask and it's uh there's not a lot on us online so it's always like where are you from how long have you been making music how did you guys meet how long have you known each other and so i told rob none of none of that so you're from minnesota yeah we met five years ago home of prince yeah oh i didn't know that yeah I should be a better prince. That's where all the Scandinavian people settled. Is that correct? Yeah, yeah. So like Lutefisk and stuff and all that stuff is like... What fisting? Lutefisk, which is like... Fisting? Yeah, fisting. The other... Lutefisk? It's like Lutefisk when fisting. Sorry, I don't know. Mongolians, like... Oh, there's a big Hmong population. Hmong, yeah. After the Vietnam War, like the... If you guys know the Hmong... People. HM. Do you guys want to know about Minnesota? Yeah. When the U.S. backed out of the Vietnam War, they armed. What was that about again? Who was that against? What was that about again? Cloud thing. Yeah. Well, there's just a, like.

Yeah, there's a strong Somalian and Hmong population in Minnesota. Oh, nice. Same in Toronto as well. Yeah. I feel like you have kind of a Somali Hmong undertone. Yeah. I can see it now you mention it. When the TikTok audio comes through, you'll see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Maybe you can hashtag Somalia. We always do. We have a big Somali. Ayub. Yeah, one person. Well, that's like 10% of the audience. There's 5% of the Patreon subscribers. So... I actually don't know where to start. I didn't put these in any kind of useful chronological order. How's London? Shit question. So I'm from Minnesota. So you're from London. Is this a shoes-on apartment? Sorry, do you want me to take my shoes off? Okay. Yeah, okay. London's awesome. Yeah, yeah. We've barely been here. Yeah, I don't know it very well. Yeah, like I've only been here on touristy type occasions. So this is like the first time I can like meet real people. You saw Big Ben? What? You saw Big Ben? Big Ben? Big Ben? Oh, yeah. I guess. From afar. Nice. I didn't like actually, I don't know. I went on my own. So I was just like walking around. Yeah. That's not safe. I know. It was super weird in retrospect, but. How old were you? I was 21. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I was telling you about this. I like bought a ticket like eight months in advance for like $400 to go to Europe. And I was like, I'm going to go. For my 21st birthday. Because I don't like celebrating my birthday. What's your birthday? When is it? February 22nd. And I just got an email. It was like, your flight's coming up. And I was like, okay, I guess I'm going. I had no money in my bank account at all. So I just got on the flight and left. And I just walked around and got on trains. The Beatles and Harry Styles. Yeah. The Rolling Stones. Yeah. A lot of that.

Sure. And like ate bread and cheese and that's it. Not got that in the States. It's cheaper. It's all. So you just ate twice as much. Yeah. Okay. What's some other stuff you've eaten? While we've been here? Just in general. What's the craziest shit you ever put inside yourself? Wait, no. Actually, when we were in Paris, I was like, whoa, the Vietnamese food was so good. That makes sense, though. Sorry, that's just food-related. That was the answer to the question. Yeah. Fire, fire, fire, fire. Yeah. Was it giving yummy? Yeah, no, because, like, I'm a huge critic. Was it giving yummy? You guys ever rub your tummy-tum and say yummy? Oh, yeah. Like, when I'm eating, I'm like, I'm like, yummy. Yeah. Yeah. And before I eat, usually it's like, ooh, hungry, hungry. Yeah. And then after, it's usually, or during. It's like, yummy. After, it's just totally satisfied. Don't need to say anything. Just a side. Silence means, like, it's content. Yeah. Yeah. You're listening to the worst podcast in the world. Again, I'm just going by Rob's show notes. I'm like woefully underprepared. This is like... We're Chanel beads. We're from New York City, originally from Minnesota. All right. Maya, where are you from? I'm from Southern California. How was that? Like Orange County. Nice. Sublime? Much? Are they from Orange County? I know... I know... Blink-182. No doubt is like from... Huntington Beach. Avenged Sevenfold. Avenged Sevenfold is from Huntington Beach, yeah. Do you know those guys? Huh? Do you know those guys? No. But... You guys should support them on their next tour. A lot of the people... Oh, they're from Long Beach. There you go. That's right. No doubt is right. You're an Avenged Sevenfold guy. Wait, I think I'm getting this all wrong. City of Evil, Avenged Sevenfold, genuinely like Seminole. I love that album. Southern California. Wait, where's No Doubt exactly from?

We got Olivia off mic. There you go. Off mic Olivia. Yeah. Get the facts straight. Yeah, no, but like Huntington Beach is like super racist now. It used to be really cool. Why did it become super racist? It's just like Orange County is like known for becoming the most like the most conservative place. They have like a lot of neo-nazis. Huh? Have they historically had a lot of neo-nazis? Around there. Is that right? It's like bad boy stuff. Yeah. There were rumors about growing up that. Where was like American history? I was just going to, I don't know. I always thought that was in California. It is Southern California. Yeah. Oh, okay. Right. And I, cause I thought all the, all the like patriots and they were all in Northern California. There's all these like crazy militia guys, right? That's like Oregon. Yeah. Right. Like they're like so patriotic. I don't know. I don't know shit what their deal is, but there was like a whole standoff in Oregon. Right. Okay. Yeah. It was like a family kind of with like trying to become an autonomous. Yeah, it's that type of vibe. It's like militias taking small public office seats to control these areas of Northern California. Does Northern California go up to Oregon? I haven't got any geography of the states. Yeah, I mean, they're close. They're close. Yeah, yeah. There's actually like a Northern California, I forgot what it's called, but there's like a separatist movement. You know what I'm talking about? I forgot. We're dumb as shit, dude. All I know is... What's above Oregon? Washington. And what's in Washington? Frasier. That's where Niall Frasier's radio show. Frasier. I'm listening. Yeah, there's a town called Seattle in Washington. Yeah, that's where we spent like five years before moving to New York. That's where Tad is from. The band Tad. The man Tad? The band Tad. The band Mudhoney. Oh, Mudhuddy. Yeah, yeah. There's another one that's on the tip of my tongue. Nirvana. You guys should check them out. Yeah. Actually, like... Are the Melvins from there as well? The Melvins are from there. Beautiful. Nirvana's cool. Are they from there? No, I thought they were from Oregon. Yeah, yeah. Or what's it called? Portland? Olympia. Portland. Olympia's a big... Olympia's in Washington. That's a big, like... That's all K-Rickers. Huge. Everyone's favorite albums. That's where Ian's from.

Yes. Your other guest. Talk your shit. First of all, Ian Kim jugs because of his bountiful bosoms. Which you were talking about earlier. Very well drooling. Yeah. We met... Well, now it sounds so weird to be like... Nothing but nice. I already gave him a nice shout out on NTS. We were thinking about moving... A little bit ago, Mai and I, we were getting sick of New York, of our terrible apartment in Bushwick. And we were like, okay, we're going to London for a week. Maybe we'll move here. London seems cool. Yeah, move here. You guys seem all right. We need more bands. We need more bands. You need more bands. Yeah, there are fuckable bands. There's your band, Bar Italia. The Rolling Stones. Bartell, yeah. That's it. That's it. That's it. Oh my God. That's so funny because wasn't there that Lady Gaga Rolling Stones party or something in New York? There's a new song. Rolling Stones just put out a new album. I don't know if you guys heard of it. I am familiar with this. I am familiar with this. The cover is pretty sick. The cover art. Okay. It's like CGI diamonds. Okay. Can you do like for the camera? Can you do an impression? Of CGI diamonds. Yeah, I'll do. I'll do one right after this. Magic. Yeah, put it on the... The entire time of you put the... This is 2023 Rolling Stone record album art. Those guys need some promo, actually. They need some clout. Well, okay. Is Mick Jagger a bit of a baddie? Well, the last tour we were on... I think Maya, like two people she followed on Instagram went to a party and you were acting like everybody we knew went to the secret Lady Gaga Rolling Stone party. But I swear to God, it's like... No, no, no, no. I just like... I can't. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to make you defend yourself. No, no, it's not about me. It's just like I don't want to talk.

It's a great album. I just don't like to talk. So you guys went to a secret Lady Gaga party? No, no. We were in like Lawrence, Kansas when this happened. For some reason, my Instagram was just like full of stories of people at this secret Lady Gaga party. We were out of town. We were on tour with this band. Yeah. And I kept telling everybody I felt FOMO from that and they were like, what are you talking about? Just you looking at Lady Gaga's and the Rolling Stones Instagram stories. Damn, I kind of got FOMO from this. Lady Gaga. The thing is, you know those scenes. You go to those things. It sounds cool. It sounds so New York, and then you get there, and then you're like, this is the most shit experience ever. You guys know how New York is. Everybody's just awful. I've only ever had incredible experiences. I was there last year. We guys have good friends. I feel like we're... You don't know the real New York thing. Oh, what the New York? You go and it's terrible and shit and you're miserable. Yeah, well, we've only been there for two years. Is this what you guys want to talk about? About New York? Well, you just said it's shit and it's terrible and it's miserable. No, no, no, no. I don't want to talk bad about... at all you can do some therapy if you want well that's like every New Yorker's experience is like oh but it makes it's character building you come out well do people complain like big strong boy yeah yeah do people complain about like I feel like that's like maybe this is like obvious something but like in New York it's like everybody just complains about it all the time do people complain about London all the time yeah they just say it's too expensive too expensive that's it yeah yeah yeah But then New Yorkers come to London and they say, oh, everything's half the price. Genuinely. Of like New York? I thought, yeah. I don't know if that's true. Yeah. I can't really, I haven't talked enough about it, but. We're talking New York City, right? It seems comparable. Hey, it was originally owned by the Dutch, right? Just a. We're talking New York, not all. We're talking York. York, okay. Also very expensive. Isn't New York run by the Dutch?

They sold it. Yeah, yeah. We got CERN and we got sick-ass football players in exchange, essentially. I'll take it. Shout out Clarence Seydorf. I feel like maybe you just had an experience with a far more competent broadcasting personality. So what are some questions that Flo asked you? Sorry, I didn't hear what you said. Flo, NTS Flo. Oh, I'm NTS. Good question. That was like six hours ago. I'm like totally... This guy smoked out his mind. I know. I did drink like a gin and tonic, two beers, and like half a bottle of wine in between that and this. And now I'm a mother. You did? Yeah, because we did a photo shoot and Olivia knows that I hate photo shoots so they just like plaster. Yeah. With boobs. You can't tell. Yeah, I can't tell at all. I feel FOMO from that. Yeah, dude, you missed. Was Lady Gaga there? Damn. Big Jagger. Bones. Flo is so sweet. Half the time is just sitting in the booth while a song plays, off mic, just being like, I heard you're a gardener. And she's like, my tomatoes are coming in. No. Are you serious? Yeah, it was awesome. She has like a gardening podcast. That's so cool. What? She has like a gardening podcast. Yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah, yeah. Missing with that. Missing with that. That's so cool. But it was crazy. There was like songs that I thought I was going to play that were like, like. Like, oh, no one knows this, like, old man from the, like, who released the record in the 80s that, like, no one knows. And I thought, like, I was, like, going to play a deep cut, and she's like, oh, his other band is better. Yeah, I thought, okay, now I feel dumb as shit because, like, I didn't know he was in the Wire. Yeah, yeah. The Wire. The TV show. No. Well, I'm not a Wire fan, so, like. Yeah, yeah, like the. The post-punk band. Yeah, yeah.

Their music has always seemed like kind of impenetrable boring. Like I'm sure this rewarding stuff. I just could never be fucked to like take a leap. Everyone acts like they're this like mecca of like posts. But I'm like, the B-52s are like amazingly better. I don't know what the fuck. Wow, I don't know why it was boring as shit. I have the same with like Throbbing Gristle. Like worst band of all time. I mean, this is kind of my sense. Do you guys know White House? Yeah, it's also Throbbing Gristle. Pedophiles. Oh, yeah, they all are. But... No, that's not... I'll get all this shit up afterwards. What was that Swedish word that you were talking about? Beautiful. Was that different? The lamb thing? I wish. Oh, no, that's true. Lamb? Yeah, that is kind of gross. What? I found out the age of consent in Japan was like 13 until very recently. It's crazy. We're just talking about the term of... Dating. This is when I'm like USA. USA. I'm glad you brought NCSO because I was taking some screenshots from the chat. Yeah. And people liked your voice big time. What? Yeah, people were horny for Shane in the chat. Big time. What? Wait a minute, what? The way this guy sounds is like some guy whose hand I held for three hours whilst he cried getting a tattoo. Oh, fuck that. Okay. Alright. Cut the mic. The only time I got a tattoo, they were meant to go over it three times and apparently I was so squeamish and difficult to tattoo that they did it once and told me to go. Wait, where's your tap? On my right arm, I have the three-star Dragon Ball from Dragon Ball Z. Nice. Yeah. That was a relationship-ending tattoo. Well, because it was so bad. The girlfriend at the time was like, I can't have a boyfriend with an anime tattoo. And then we stayed together for like another year and a half and broke up for different reasons. Nice. So you guys put this song out called F. Yeah. F. When did you put that out? And when did it immediately end up in lots of people's kind of...

Algorithms. Dude, that's what I was just talking about to Sophia. This is how I discovered you guys. I feel like it's an algorithm song, which a little bit makes me feel cringe. Well, this is what I was going to ask because it feels like, but also it's gifted you. We're in London right now. Yeah, it's literally you're in London because of the Spotify algorithm. This guy I was working with yesterday described a song that was getting played on the radio as a cracking hot track. And I'd agree F is a cracking hot track. What does that mean? Cracking hot. Yeah. Cracking? It's like cool, like cool. Well, I get it, but it's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what's your feelings about the algorithm and the fact it's given you everything you have now? And that's a fact. Dead air, dead air. The algorithm. Was it not a surprise? Is the algorithm listening right now? It was a surprise for sure. But that's the thing. Yeah, it was definitely like. I have some opinions about like locality and like living in New York and then making music and then all of a sudden stuff like that kind of getting pulled in to the algorithm like mysteriously. It doesn't feel that way. It feels like it just kind of does what it does. Because like what you're saying is we need more bands. There's not many in New York either that we look up to. So it felt like it was a surprise, but also it felt like it was going to happen because industry, the suits, you know? You felt like there was momentum behind you guys anyway. And then, like you say, like people from the industry kind of like becoming interested in what you're doing. And then it's kind of so happened that the track also kind of seemed to perform well on streaming platforms. And there's all these things kind of coalesce to where you are. Yeah, yeah. It kind of seems like the people like the algorithm is like, it does feel like there's like some unnamed person who has like, is standing at like a lever and they're turning it on and off. And I don't think they know if they have, I don't know who they are or whatever, but there definitely is like a person at Spotify who like turned on the like F Discover Weekly lever and just fucking wrecked my life. You weren't like gaming. You weren't gaming the kind of hot new indie playlists. It was all accident. Well, okay.

No, we weren't. I don't know how to game that. Oh, no, me neither. But it's kind of funny when people, no shade, but when people are like, thank you, Spotify, on Instagram. Yeah. It's like, what are you talking about? Yeah. No, definitely shade. Big shade. Spotify just destroyed an industry. We've seen the new thing where it's like, if... more than a third of your songs have less than a thousand plays, you can't get any revenue whatsoever. Yeah, because they're splitting the pie. It's like a pie. I think that's how publishing works in general. Drake is one of the top played artists ever. I think one in 120 songs played on Spotify is a Drake song. Wow. He's so fucking good. Yeah, he rules. I'm just kidding. And he just moved to London, right? Did he? I thought he bought a house in London. He bought a girl a house in London? He built a house. I don't know. But that's how publishing works, where it's like there's all this unclaimed publishing money, and then they just give it to whoever's the most paid person. Whoever makes the best music. Whoever's the best in music. Yeah, who's the best? Like, well, I really like this song. Yeah. This hotline bling thing has potential. Why don't you, you guys should just do hotline bling. Hotline bling? Do you guys do any live covers? No, never. Hotline bling tomorrow? Yeah. Do you have live walk-on music? We should, yeah. Hotline bling? So yeah, I wanted to walk on to Rich Bain. We should, I was telling, actually, I think we should walk on to, I don't know if this is like the corniest thing, but like, do you know the Beach Boys song? Don't cry, put your head on my shoulder. We should walk on a bass. Yeah, but just the outro. When like the strings come in. I think it would set the mood. Where's Zach? He's on the coast. Yeah. Oh yeah, so. Playing violin. I think he's like hanging out with this guy. I forgot his name. Joe Biden.

Yeah. Different. Different. Unrelated. Different Joe Biden. He's hanging out with guys? Yeah, he's hanging out with guys. He's hanging out with this guy who's like, to me, he seems like a legendary IDM guy or something. Apex twin. Yeah. Yeah. I see. I see. I kind of don't want to say his name because maybe he's not and I'm uninformed. Same. We can always go wrong. Yeah. What's the like I listen to an episode and you guys do a lot of like. Yeah. We'll do that. We can do that. Okay. Cool. I'll probably do that. The guy has a project under like Locust or something. He's been around since the 90s. Oh. He's got like some really cool like it goes all over the place. Like he does a lot of like. Some of the stuff is almost kind of like world music sampling. Singer-songwriter as well. It's not singer-songwriting. Then it might be a different look. Mark Van Hoen. Maybe. Is this our guy? Impossible to say. This is a great podcast. So, when you Google your band's name, you get lots of people asking about the authenticity of pearl necklaces. Was that intentional? Wait, what? I searched Chanel Beads Nerds on Reddit. People who thought weird things about you guys. And it's just me. So did you look up Chanel Beads r slash or something? No, I just searched Chanel Beads Reddit. And then instead, I just got all these people asking about the authenticity of different pearl necklaces. Someone sent me a link that was like with Nourished by Time, which is our friend Marcus. Someone sent me a link that was just like, I saw Nourish by Time, and they play with Chanel Beads. That was cool. And it had like two upvotes. I don't know Reddit that well, but I was like, fuck yeah. We made it. One of those upvotes is automatic, and the second one was me. Oh, yeah. And then there was like a... The Rate Your Music one is kind of weird, though. Oh, yeah. Someone sent me Rate Your Music, and I think we have a pretty low score. Yeah. What? Do you know Rate Your Music? Rate My Poo?

Yeah. It's an app. Okay. No, some, I don't know. Yeah, I think it's a website where it's like, it's like, it's like not Discogs kind of or something, but it's like, it's like a way to like, you can write like, it's like Goodreads, but like worse. Right, okay. And I think we have like a, like low three out of five or two out of five. Do people write reviews? They just have it for the whole band. Yeah, just under Chanel beads. That site is probably the biggest concentration of rabid, completely sincere Anthony Fantano heads in the world is my kind of perception of radio music. I guess Goodreads is the same. Who's the Anthony Fantano of literature? I don't know if there is one, but I mean people who just use it. It's like Letterboxd, IMDB, whatever. All those rating sites. If you're cool, you don't rate shit. Right, right, right. Yeah, I would never reduce music to a numerical value. What do you guys give our music? Oh, yeah. Love it. Oh, out of five. Oh, nice. Yeah, I misread that. You're already stoked on a six out of ten. I was like, I'll take it, yeah. There's a sound on Police Scanner. It was kind of like a Yelp. Is it the sound that says Police Scanner? No, no, no. There's at one point like maybe like two thirds in the song. There's like a little who did that? Shame. Can you recreate the sound? I don't know like what you're talking about. Am I just hallucinating? Well, we do a lot of like some shit like that. Well, I feel like the way we make music a lot too is like, it's like, uh, it's like, hard to make a song like i'm really bad at like making and my has been really great graceful at pushing me to make like okay first chorus bridge chorus or something but it's like a lot of music doesn't do that or doesn't do it yeah so experiment with it but then can you actually also yeah repeat the chorus yeah because people want it sometimes this is a sorry like a convoluted answer yeah

Sorry. I feel like when we're mixing it, it's like, damn, this is boring. You think that about your own music? Yeah, yeah. And then I'll be playing it, and then I'll have a microphone going while we're playing it, and I'll just be pacing the room, and sometimes just go like, GAH! Because you're like, God, this is so boring. It fucking sucks or something. But then also it's like... You know, just to spoil the magic, it's like... Yeah. Like, you know, the mic's recording. I know the mic's on. So we'll use that sound or something. Oh, okay. Like sampling, yeah. Magic spoiled. Yeah. Magic spoiled. The yeah that you do in that song. That's cool as fuck. Yeah, that happened from live. Just like doing like a lot of like live shows and just like... I heard that and I thought I want to hang out with this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we started, we did one tour and like, we're kind of going through this phase where it's like, I didn't want to say it's like a single word outside of singing on stage. And there's a lot of down, like there's like, Maya's like re-arming tracks and like going through shit and setting up effects. And there's like downtime and I don't want to like banter with the audience. So I would just. Every track go, yeah. Hell yeah. Maybe you could write some jokes for these kind of bits in between so that you don't feel pressured. Yeah, that's like awesome when you see a band and they're like, anyone know any jokes? Yeah. You don't have to do that. That's what I'm saying. What's your favorite joke, Shane? You know the Watchtower joke? The Moth one. No, not the Moth one. I like the Moth one. Let's say the Moth one. The Moth joke is, no. It's like a Norm MacDonald joke. It's a 20-minute joke. It's a 20-minute shaggy dog story. Oh, no, I know that one. You tell it. I mean, I don't remember the trajectory or whatever, but the whole thing is just like this extremely elaborate kind of anti-joke. It's like a short Dostoevsky novel.

You go to a doctor for some ailment. A moth goes into a podiatrist's office. This is already absurd. This is so absurd. And that's the essence of comedy. And he doesn't need to be at the podiatrist, but then it ends up like, why did you come to me while the light was on? That's why, yeah. Yeah, maybe not that one then. What's the next one? What's the next one? I don't know. I wish I, you're, Maya has this, like, kind of, like, relative who's, like, always have an anecdote in your pocket, and I've never prepared one. An anecdote. You know the Watchtower joke? It's famous for just being called the Watchtower joke, but. No. You want to hear it? No, absolutely, absolutely. Well, we can talk about it earlier. It's coming up now. Oh, is this a Hitler joke? Yeah, it's my grandparent. Dude, we really don't like Nazis. I'd rather you didn't. Yeah, I'm not going to. Get ready for the Adolf Hitler. Adolf Hitler, yeah, yeah. The politician. Not Donald Hitler. The poet. The painter. You know, Hitler the influencer. All right, now I got to tell the joke because it's like took off the gun and I fucking laid the ground. The watchtower joke is like my grandfather actually died in the Holocaust. He fell out of a watchtower. That's pretty funny. That's pretty good. There's no... That's quite funny. I feel like... Sleep that, please. He fell out of a... Concentration camp. You're saying you need an anecdote in your back pocket. I think we can help you here on CloudFarm with a little segment we do. What's the craziest shit you ever saw? Like ever in life? Ever saw. That could be like a really, really big balloon. Can you start? Yeah. Crazy. I've not answered this yet. Crazy shit happens to you. You don't see it. You like...

What's the craziest shit that ever happened to you? You experienced. Do you guys believe in ghosts? I meant you. I meant you. Oh. Drugs. The craziest thing that happened to you was drugs. Like, yeah. Crazy things happen. One, I fell through, like, one time I was on acid and we were running across a frozen lake and I fell in. But it was only like waist high. That's so good. It was waist high. So I climbed out. But then you're like frozen cold on acid for like six hours so you get back to the car. And then I watched The Blues Brothers for the first time. So Maya, can you pretend that you're now rearming tracks? like you're on stage yeah and start talking to the audience with your anecdote oh like oh oh now I get it yeah yeah so when like in between songs I go I was 19 and I was not in a very good headspace in a frozen lake when you say you were 19 on three sugar cubes of acid And then Maya's like, making sure the autotune is in the right key. And then the audience are going, play it out. Play it out. Perfect. You should not visit the George Tavern 29th of November. You know what's funny? I was watching the live sets that you guys have on YouTube earlier, and I just had them on in the background whilst I was working. It's like, oh, nice, nice, nice. And then it's crazy. Literally, as soon as the first note of F comes in, it's every time. It's like, ah! Yeah. I can't tell if it's like we should release more music or we should quit. No, this is bad to the algorithm. It's not your fault. It's not very much you can do about it. It's not your fault you wrote a good song. Yeah. We got to do something about this algorithm. Yeah, we'll nuke the algorithm. Yeah. There we go. DJ Smoky first of December. Do you use Spotify? I use it just for audience outreach purposes. Yeah. I concluded way too late that it's...

Kind of an essential part of the ecosystem. But I don't like actively use it. So this is the first time I'm hearing of this. Which is to say that I'm your most authentic fan. I write your music through much more authentic and legitimate. Yeah, I could tell as soon as I met you that you feel music differently. I just thought of the song. I thought of Bobby Wobank. How did you find out about it? I think it was actually Ian. So it was like word of mouth. The jugs made. So just for one, I was transfixed by his glistening breasts, obviously. He was talking about music as he was wanting to do. And for whatever reason, the one thing that did filter into my consciousness was him being like, I don't think I've ever seen his face. I believe it's there. But do you reckon when Duster play live, the ones that are like the top of their Spotify, do you think there's just kids like going crazy? You finally got to bring up. How many monthly listeners? They got like five mil. They got like five mil. But this is only funny to us. No, it's not funny. It's just nuts, isn't it? Just how keen you've been to talk about it. I think Tim should support them. Well, Shinobi could. You could probably support them in America. Duster? Yeah. I've got to check them out. Shut up, dude. No way. I'm not trying to be contrarian, but I actually don't know Duster very well. I don't either, but I've definitely put them in mixes. I've been like, this is cool. And it's a really super popular song. I feel like I've been in a living room like this and someone will play a Duster song and I'll be like... Yo, this is cool. This is cool. So, yeah, we'll definitely check them out. Is Duster, like, huge? They're huge. Well, they're big everywhere, I guess, but... Yeah. But they weren't big at the time, and now they've got, like, ten times the kind of... Because of TikTok? Of, like, My Bloody Valentine or something. And they've gone... Yeah, yeah, yeah. My Bloody Valentine, Duster, TikTok kind of... Yeah. I feel like it's, like, how kids...

How we would have been like 15 years ago experiencing music through like TikTok. So strange. Like Alex G's like songs blowing up from TikTok and everything. When we saw him earlier in the year, I was surprised by how many younger fans he had. You guys are Alex G? He was sick. He was sick. I thought it would be all people like 40 and above, but it was like a bunch of kids. It was a good vibe. How long did he play? Yeah. An hour maybe? He did like four encores because he was like, my drummer's having a baby. Yeah. When we... She was just on stage giving birth. That was so awkward. And he told this weird anecdote about like the watchtower or some shit. Which watchtower? Next question. Next question. It was really good. The interesting thing, though, is that when he does certain songs and he doesn't have the kind of vocal manipulations and auto-tune that he puts on, they're all of a sudden just like almost like classic rock or something. And you're just like, damn. I don't know if I fuck with this as much anymore. Really? I feel like there's this one, there's a song called Immunity, and there's this live version. Oh, my God. That song is like pitched up. Yeah. And then when he plays it, it's like, I'm like, fuck, this like hits so hard. Yeah. And it's like live, like. Yeah. Pull it up. Do you guys try a different live too on the record? What was that? The vibe is a different live. It's pretty different live. Yeah, it is. But it's mostly just because it's like. Like, because. I don't know. Well, you can enter a different state, you know, alive. It's like really way more aggressive alive. Yeah, definitely. You ever cry on stage? Yeah. Wait, cry? Never. I hold it in. Respect. It's like more screaming, you know, than crying.

So just kind of like rageful hysteria, but no tears. Respect. You ever see like the end of Brokeback Mountain? No. Oh my God. Our vibe on stage is at the end of Brokeback Mountain when he sees that he kept his shirt. Oh my God, I'm going to cry. That's my vibe on stage. I gotta go. Check out Ang Lee's Brokeback Mountain from 2004. Not cosines. Zero cosines. Watch Heat instead. Michael Mann's Heat. You ever see when he looks over with his guns on the counter and he looks over across the ocean? That's also honestly the same vibe. You've seen the painting that's based on? Yeah. That's so funny that he saw that painting and he's like... bank robbers on making this that's so funny also like goofy ass painting to be like yeah badass it looks like PS2 graphics or some shit I would never say that director's surname but I would refer to him by his first name usually what is it again? Michael Mann or Ang Lee? Michael I wouldn't say the second one this is an anti-sauce podcast you see the new ferrari movie by michael van okay yeah yeah that's that's exciting i haven't watched that have you seen it yeah i think so what like he's doing like a little collab with ferrari yeah it's like adam driver's on that as as ferrari yeah i guess adam who Adam Ferrari. The first time I met, we have to like bleep this, but you guys, you probably won't have heard of him. This is like, he kind of like disappeared off the scene. He got canceled into oblivion. Whatever. He was like on the like London scene. That sounds like the most cancelable artist. But the first time I met him, he was wearing like a Ferrari backpack.

And I find it really funny to buy, like, luxury car merch. Yeah. There's, um... Totally. In Seattle, like... There's, like, in the neighborhood we lived in Seattle, Capitol Hill, there was, like, famously, like, a Ferrari, like, dealership. Dude, yeah. And it's, like, you could go in there and, like, you could get a Ferrari windbreaker. Did you live in Seattle when the chop happened? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck, how was that? You guys in there? We were in there. We almost freaking turned the needle. We were so close to like solving. I thought it was the chats. It was both. Wait, did you guys actually go in there? And if so, what was it like? Normal. Right? It wasn't the insane thing it was depicted as in the media. I don't know what it was depicted like. A bunch of people got killed in the end, right? No. That's not correct. I think there was one shoot. It wasn't that many people. But even in the US, the news was coming. It was just my grandfather in the watch. Oh my god, I'll use watch. That would be the episode title. Watch out. Wow. No, but yeah. Michael Mann's heat behind me. I'm sorry. I said that like four people got killed. Like they got shot by the kind of like security force that they assembled around it. Nah. I'm not an authority on what happened there. Yeah. I'm not culpable. But the news was blowing it out of, yeah, absolutely. The hygiene. Seattle's pretty clean. Well, like that park is like you just pee in the, it's AstroTurf, that park. Yeah. So people just pee on the AstroTurf all the time. People do that in general? Yeah, like it's a spot like Cal Anderson. I'm so confused. Wait, what are you? Like Cal Anderson, like for years.

has been a place where people just kind of like... Where do you... Are you talking about the hygiene? It's like the hygiene is poor. It's been poor. Oh, yeah, but there are bathrooms there. There are bathrooms there. That's like an urgent situation. I'm confused by it. Yeah, there's like, in quotations, public bathrooms, I would say. But you can't really use them all the time. You just mean, like, during this time? Like, people were peeing during the... Well, you have to ask Dana what you mean by hygiene. I'm confused by hygiene. What, I mean, by pig? No. I'm sorry, I got really confused by the question. It's what I'm doing right now. I don't know, it just seemed like kind of a stinky sort of... No, it wasn't like BO vibe. It was more like tear gas. No, it was literally, it was like tear gas protests. That. And then it became this autonomous zone where it was, like, painting and art and, like, vibes. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's what it became. So it wasn't, like... And you don't think it degenerated then at a certain point afterwards? Generated? Degenerated. Oh, yeah. I think it could just quickly, like, return to, like, the norm. Like, it wasn't, like, this moment of, like... well, things have really gone downhill at Chaz. It was like, oh, it's just back to being the shitty park it was before. Oh, okay. So he was already a shithole. Yeah. Or like, that's where people go to hang out. It's where teenagers go drink because you can't get into the bars. So it was already a lawless zone. America's a freaking lawless zone. Let's get that on the bar. Sorry, bleep America and then just say... So how do you guys stand on an open carry? Like guns or alcohol? Well, it's hard. In the U.S., you have a brown bag around the AK. Yeah. No, in the U.S., you have to, like, so if I had a beer in the U.S., I'd have to have a brown, or I'd have to have, like, a bag over it. No, no, no. You can walk down the street with a beer.

So when you buy, like, a single beer, and you probably know this in New York. You can't drink on trains. I love coming on a podcast and, like, explaining liquor laws in New York. Yeah? Dude, I almost got kicked out of the show. Remember what I was talking about? I played that show in LA with, like... deleted gang and shit and it was like the worst show ever aside from just like the venue being trash the sound being trash and just the day in general being trash I almost got booted out after like taking just like the tip of my toe kind of like extending beyond like the outer limits of the venue and this kind of like mongoloid like bouncer like pounced on me well yeah they can lose their they can they can lose their liquor license you get it you can get arrested and like the liquor license is like a whole like what is it In some cities in the U.S. it's like a lottery. It's a lottery. You might have to pay like $5,000 to get a license or more. I thought it was like a million in New York or something. A million bucks to sell a beer? Yeah. Seriously. Bleep the amount because we don't know it. Yeah, we don't know the facts. Where's the lady to fact check this? There's a similar thing happening. We played this show in this railroad tunnel. Yeah, should we take a break? Yeah, we'll hear this. Yeah, we'll hear this and then... Yeah, okay. So we played the show in this what we thought was an unused railroad. So it was three tunnels in a row. And the tunnel we were in was unused. But the middle one was being used by the MTA, the New York Metro Authority. Thank you. So they came and they had flashlights and they were like, what the fuck is going on? There's like 300 people in this tunnel. And so they called the cops.

kind of like half a mile from the bar where there's like a gate entrance behind the bar to get on the train tracks. Yeah. So you walk past the bar up onto a bridge and you walk like pretty far over this bridge to where we were playing the show. And they called the cops. MTA called the cops on us. And so like... I overheard them. They were like three of, you know, the conductors came over and they were like... wow, there's a lot of people here. And then he called the cops and then they were so, they were like, you guys have like literally 20 seconds. They're like, you have five minutes to pack up your PAs and all, like a drum kit and everything and put it in this van and get out of here. So they're like, play F. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, wait, we want to hear F. The algorithm is strong on this one. No, we, it was like the last band got kind of fucked, but. They corralled everyone into this bar that was nearby. And then like one of our friends was like, everyone was like mad at the cops. And one of our friends was like, fuck you guys. ACAB. If you could put that in the spell. If you could spell that out for me. Can you bleep that? ACAB. And they like literally pulled like, so it's like you're allowed to drink on this curb of this bar. And they literally pulled him off the curb and then arrested him for public intoxication where it's like. Sounds like your experience. Actually threw him on the ground and punched him a couple times. Did anyone film it? Did anyone film it? Yeah. It was really bad. Got him. Yeah. And that's how Nourish My Time started. That's how I wrote, and that's why I wrote F. That's why you're on police scanner. Police scanner. But they've never been about. Yo. I splashed niggas. Yo. In and out. Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people