Episode 38: “WEEDB” feat. Galcher Lustwerk *PREVIEW — FULL EP ON PATREON*

You are listening to the free version of Club Farm. Swear down. Buff. Your name comes from a Capachin? Oh my god. New bombshell. Like, fuck. Guy in a wheelchair getting his dick sucked. Yeah, my Mr. Bean knowledge is real spotty. Did you ever see Johnny English? That sounds like a, you know, a Drexia side project. Dude, he's from my hometown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Real. Real legends. I think he got fucked up by the Mormons. The Mormons fucked him up. Is that what you were studying at RISD? I feel like Christmas is a season is quite polarizing. I feel like Christmas is a season is quite polarizing. They're like, oh, I got a text, I got a text. I got a text. Is this like a text chain that you just tell each other you're jacking off? They're trying to protect England from being overtaken by a French megalomaniac called Pascal Sauvage. People are dancing and it's raining liquid from the ceiling. The leaking toilet water or whatever, they're dancing and that shit. Dude, ghetto gothic chain's so... You know who needs a bag? Who? Quavius. Quavius needs a bag. Yeah, he needs so much money. Karius is the shit. He deserves it, man. So I came across, I think, I guess it was a self-titled that you put out, like 2016, and I was obsessed. Like the first time anyone ever asked me to record a mix for them, it was just some guy running a blog with maybe a 10-person readership. I played Magic Man, and that song is like, I still found myself returning to it. Yeah. He's got a lot of, I mean, he's always sending me stuff. Oh, yeah. He's got a lot of dope stuff. He was definitely posting one of Lucy's on SoundCloud for a while. I don't know if he still does that, but he definitely was like super prolific for a while. Yeah, Quavius. I think he's also in that sort of patient realm. You know, things will happen when they do kind of thing.

Like, I brought him up to play at Bossa Nova Civic Club once. And that was just, like, a sick experience. Like, I felt just, like, happy to be able to do that. You know what I mean? Like, I brought him up to Cleveland once and then once to New York. And we played with Greg Beato. I don't know if you know him. I don't know. He's, like, also from Florida. uh put stuff out on like lies and apron records and stuff where are we talking this is like after the self-title dropped yeah yeah so like 18 i think you're i mean obviously there's like a lot of like superficial parallels to like your your swag and his swag um do you think he was like at all influence by your music or is just it was a case of just like parallel thinking i don't know because i told it was really random finding him on soundcloud like like i have no idea what the algorithm was doing but i found one of his tracks and it was it wasn't um so housey it was more like a breakbeat like kind of drunk faster like jungle thing but um and then i reached out to him and he just already had like all types of genres like that he was sending me even at that point in time so but i think it was like a good year or so before you know we actually decided to put something if he's out what's the status of like do you have anything cooking with the label no i'm trying to do something before the end of the year but i'll do it for anyone that will be able to get it in by the end of the year because it's just like things are so delayed right now so i'm really just like if no one else will do it i'll do it kind of thing But, yeah, I want to go to, like, Australia. I want to go back to Asia. So I need to put something out, like, by the end of this year, basically. The cynical PR cycle play. Yeah, sure. I kind of want to talk about 100% Goucher. Like, I feel like we have to. Okay. Because I feel like...

the vast majority of people who rock with you would have been introduced to you through that. I mean, it's safe to say that it kind of like put you on the map initially. Yeah. Can you like paint us a picture of what your life was like then? Oh, cool. Like what was moving you? Who were you moving with? So I was living in Fort Greene with a young male who also does white material and he had already started pressing records. I think by then, like he had done his record and then he had done a DJ Richard record. So I knew that I was up next at some point. So I kind of like put the mix together out of outtakes from the White Material. So I like gave the songs to White Material first. They picked four for the EP and then I used the rest of them for the mix. Yeah, I was working 9 to 5, working at the agency. I think I was in a relationship at the time, but it was a little off and on. I was visiting Rhode Island a lot, still DJing in Rhode Island a little bit. But I feel like I was super busy. I was just like... it's almost like a blur because i was just living like i wasn't really uh i wasn't really taking too much time working on the songs like i was just you know doing it on the weekends and at night um but it was just like a grind yeah just like going to work every day i mean the blurriness is really apparent in the music yeah and i think i was listening to a lot of like space goes perp listening to a lot of like like workshop records kind of stuff and like Fred P and DJ Q like this like Jersey producers Joey Anderson like there's Le Bon Vincent like there's like these kind of like newly people coming up around that time that I was really excited about and do you see those guys as Paul of

a kind of wider lineage in american dance music because i i feel like i was introduced to that stuff in like 2011 2012 and it felt it has similar to the white material stuff it has like a real feeling and sensibility to it that was like quite separate from everything else i'm wondering if you know what the origins of that were um i mean i think like with with fred p and joey anderson and djq they were sort of like posts um like jersey garage i guess okay okay posts like zanzibar like uh new york house like post uh limelight and like all these clubs that like the post giuliani basically um and so there weren't many like parties or like there weren't many people like listening for that i think at the time except just like the europeans and you know the the parties in new york but uh i don't know i feel like they also don't get enough credit like all those guys i think i think a lot of like a lot of european artists sort of like quickly capitalized on that sound and sort of subsumed it sort of subsumed everything in a way but it's a really like dark version of house and i guess technical degree as well that was like very kind of like slow or not very slow, but slower and more sensuous. And you're right. I never, it never really got a chance to get in its own lane. Yeah, not quite. It just, it was just something I remember like my peak vinyl buying era. It was like your shit around that. And those guys was huge, huge for me. I mean, they, they, they play, I mean, I still, I think they still all play in Europe a lot and are appreciated over there. Okay. That's cool. So when you said, you said you felt, like you were next up do you mean in like a like this this mix is going to put me on the map type way like you would or just your the music you had cooking was going to like the music a moment yeah the music i had was yeah i kind of knew it was going to be like a reveal i guess because i hadn't used that name goucher lust work up you know that was like the debut almost of that project yeah so um

Yeah, I knew I kind of had to make a good first impression, I guess. That's kind of the thing. I knew I had to sort of do this hybridization of rap and house in the way that I did it. That was all intentional. But yeah, I just had no idea the reaction it would have. Like, I think it had a huge effect in the UK, and I just wasn't even aware of it. Like, I was still just going to work every day. Like a damn civilian? Yeah, yeah, man. Just like a... Yeah. How does your life change? Let's see. Oh, well, actually, you know what? Come to think of it, I think I had... I already left the agency and I was working at Arena, which is like this web startup. Sorry, what was the question again? How did your life change after the reception to 100% Goucher? It really didn't change all that much, I would say. I think the only thing that changed was like... this guy Claudio from the UK hitting us up about being our agent and there was all three of us so like we went out there together and it was it felt just like a kind of first step in and like a DJ career how that would feel wait do you three being you young male me young male and DJ Richard okay and so like once we got an agent that's when it started to feel like a little different but like the gigs you know we still weren't really making a whole lot of money off the gigs just yet so it felt still like couch surfing and it felt just like gigging anywhere else like going on tour in a punk band or something yeah for a while um it wasn't really until i was like playing like the big bigger venues like

berghain and and staying in like nice hotels and stuff that you're really like holy shit like this is kind of different yeah but uh yeah like like the berghain gig i the first time i played uh it was panorama bar and i played a push a t song and i played i feel like they didn't like yeah i played a push a t song and i played a jay-z song and the crowd was so like repulsed uh and and it it sort of carried like it's sort of like my reputation it sort of like hindered my reputation a little bit that is so fucking because i think people were like oh he's these you know these german promoters are like oh he's unpredictable yeah he's we don't know what he's gonna quit they are like they are like in the like bergheim there's like a genre of like house techno like purist who is obsessed with like bergheim as a sound for whom like the like the actual kind of like identity or character of the dj is secondary to them playing yeah bergheim music first and foremost yeah and i mean it was it's it's just so funny that like that was that was one of the the things when i realized like that things were happening was when people had this like reaction to it you know it's like oh people are paying attention to what i'm doing like yeah you know um you know i'd play a push a t song at any any time in new york like and it's not that big of a deal but at panorama bar whatever you play is like life or death i guess i i mean this is this isn't even like comparable the scale is not comparable even remotely to Berghain but the first time I played Berlin I was like pretty pretty green as like a DJ and I had this kind of like idealistic sense of just like I'm not just like playing I'm like I'm expressing I'm imposing I'm gonna teach these guys something and I played like I played like a Morgan Wallen song and it's just like

Within seconds, whatever momentum I managed to build just completely fell flat. I had to work so hard to recover. Yeah, that happens to the best of us. It still happens. Do you think you'd like, if you were to play Bergheim again, I mean, first of all, would you play Bergheim again? Yeah, I'd play Bergheim. Would you? um tune like tune your set would you bearing that in mind would you play push the tv no i don't think so i think i would do it different now because i think i think that's no longer uh a novel idea um especially after like the little mashup yeah yeah i think it's a lot to like kind of codify that as like a thing you could do but also the people kind of doing like pissed off instagram stories like guess burke wasn't ready for me yeah yeah it's like such like you know what you're getting into when you're playing when you're playing you're not going to be the person to like change all these like these like you know turtleneck like crew cut guys opinion last time i played there it was a live set so it's kind of it was kind of different because i didn't you didn't really have to you know think about it i just had to start and finish i wasn't aware you played live sets what's the like setup like It's Ableton with this zone MIDI controller that I control with Ableton and then my mic and that's it. It's all plugged into the mixer. Did it take you a while to feel comfortable with playing live? Yeah. Also, I had to learn to DJ with in-ear monitors because I need... there to be like as little feedback as possible in the booth area so at first like i was getting a lot of feedback issues with just the mic getting all up but um with the in-ear monitors i can still monitor my voice and and things are a little bit cleaner okay so that but that's cool because i now i just dj with in-ear monitors now it's like like nothing it's super easy

So they're shutting off the monitors for your set? They turn them down a little bit. Okay. Since the sort of 100% normcore era, how has your relationship to the intersection of art and technology changed? The intersection of art and technology? With regards to Normcore? I guess just like how bullish on you on like the kind of where, what people like yourself and others were doing at that time to like where it's ended up now. Oh, I see. I just, I feel a little bit out of the loop these days with technology, with like... breaking technology i would say um i don't know ever since like ever since uh like nfts i've sort of like checked out like i've sort of just like stopped am i wrong in thinking you did something with friends with benefits oh yeah i did do something with them are they still around I assume so. Yeah, it's still going, yeah. What did I do with them? I think I played a show or something. Did you try to book a show? Did they get you to book a show, maybe? That's crazy because I was just like, I don't remember. Or maybe I just talked with them and nothing ever formulated out of it. I guess for another point to Dom's question, what were you doing for Arena? were you uh like a graphic designer for that or was that more coding stuff yeah i did the all the um the ui design right okay i designed the app too the iphone app so like basically the whole look and feel of arena is me right okay like i was that's kind of that was and that was kind of my job for a while while doing music at the same time like i was working on the app and and you know going going to the office and working on that and then on certain weekends traveling and djing so for a while i was doing both of those at the same time right okay so for a long time it was a pretty full-on grind yeah okay at what point did you like go clear so to speak and get to just focus on music um

once the ghostly album dropped right okay and was that does that just come from the support and greater remuneration that you receive through working with a bigger label that has more infrastructure in place yeah they were just yeah they're just like had it had it locked and they would gave me an advance right and um and uh yeah just pr and all that yeah it just felt like realer at that point and i thought i could actually like do that so did you ever apply for a rhizome micro grant nah rhizome do you like but do you think um does does that does that era feel like better to you than what's in place now in terms of like i guess like aspiring electronic musicians um no i think it was better than yeah i mean i just think like soundcloud went at its peak was was just such a like it's it puts the music forward over everything else and now there's not really that like video is such a huge component now that um soundcloud's kind of falling back but like with like tech like ryzone type stuff like i don't know i miss i kind of miss these days like uh there was like this website called design is kinky there's another one called news today just like early design art aggregators from like early 2000s i guess uh michael china who like does the design for ghostly he had this company called you work for them that was like you know did a lot of like cool like vector motion graphics typography like kind of more simple stuff like that's kind of my era that's what i identify the most with like this sort of like web 1.0 yeah vector flash animation you know uh and so everything after that like instagram and tiktok

It feels like a lot to me. Like, it definitely overwhelms me a little bit. Do you think gradients were a mistake? Gradients? Well, no. But I do think, like, this sort of, like, oversimplification, and it's ironic because Arena is, like, the simplest looking website ever, but, like, how everything got, like, millennialized. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, this sort of, like... Packaged, minimal, clean, aesthetic, you know, kind of took over. Corporate Memphis. That type of vibe. Okay. Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner, Blitzen, Rudolph. Who's the goaded reindeer? i mean rudolph because i don't i don't know person the personalities of the other ones really yeah he's the only one that kind of has a has a usp yeah yeah and and like yeah who is it his parents i guess talk rudolph's parents but i don't know the lore i don't know the like genealogy oh yeah because in the beginning of the movie like he's born and then they find out his nose is lit up and then the dad's like Oh, we're going to fit in with all the other reindeer. Cover that up, son. I feel like I love that movie. I mean, you're sitting in a room full of Rudolphs. Where did you pull that from? Yeah. Is it because Galsher sounds like a reindeer name? Well, I'm asking you. Well, I have a few follow-up questions. Does your home have a chimney? Home now? Yes. No. Have you ever puckered up under mistletoe? No. Then why did you make a Christmas album? Well, the Christmas album, I was still going to my hometown. And the house that I grew up in has a chimney. Yeah. And so I think I was in Cleveland when I put the whole project together.

So there's that. Was the chimney like genuinely a factor in you arriving at the conclusion to make a Christmas album? No. But do you have like a, I feel like Christmas is the season is like quite polarizing. I feel like Christmas is the season is quite polarizing. Just the art world takes. yeah it is though like i'm i've had this conversation with many an artist uh i love christmas personally it's fine yeah it's good dude it has to be i had a pretty quiet christmas this year i stayed in new york this year but uh like yeah there's definitely a mood um nice cozy cozy little mood yeah something i don't know when did you stop believing in santa i don't remember that I think probably later than most people, though. 2014? Dude, ghetto gothic chains so much. Your name comes from Capaccio? Mm-hmm. Or Captcha? Captcha. Yeah, Capaccio. Just been misreading it my entire life. Yeah. So you see it and you're like... I don't want to go on this website. I just want to stare at the name. It must have been like Mediafire or one of those download things. But I saw it and was just like, damn, that sounds like a Drexia side project. Okay, yeah. It sounds like some techno project. And so I screen grabbed it and I probably didn't pick it until like, you know. several months later i probably didn't actually like use it until uh later but i mean it sounds like the name of a guy who'd be pissed off that someone's playing push a t at bear is generated yeah yeah it's not yeah i think if if you were to just see my name you would expect techno or german or or something but nope

Is Gelsher actually a real name? Sorry, I'm Googling this in real time. Gelsher, I think, is a last name, and Lustwerk is a real last name. That's crazy. It's just you that comes up if you just search it in Gelsher. Yeah. But Lustwerk, there's how Lustwerk's on Facebook. Like, I've seen it, and people have been like, oh, my last name's Lustwerk. Like, wow. Crazy last name. They didn't say it in that accent, I'm sure. Yeah, it's more like a lustwerk. Oh, yeah, yeah. How many times have you Googled yourself today? Zero. I have Google alerts. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. I'm going to start posting heavily just for the inbox updates. Were you aware that you're listed as a public figure when you search your name? Yes. You can pay for that. Can you really? No. Oh, okay. I want a Wikipedia article so bad. Dude, I fucking... Someone make me a Wikipedia article. I literally noted this down. It surprised me. It really surprised me. I don't know what... Someone needs to do it. I don't have access to that, but whoever has editing privileges on Wikipedia... I feel like you have the body of work to justify a Wikipedia page. I think you just got to bite the bullet. Someone else has to do it for me. You got to just bite the bullet shamelessly. Use a VPN if need be, but you got to make it happen. How else am I meant to do research? Yeah, yeah. No, there's a lot of disinformation out there. What are some misconceptions about Gaucho List work that you want to clear out? I would have had something to say in prime Twitter era, but like... I think now people have forgotten most of the lies that have been told about us. Were you active on Twitter a while ago? A little bit, yeah. Because I was talking about this with Rob. I had like a hazy memory of you being like on Twitter, like semi-actively. Right. Like you being like pretty like expressive on there, but I don't remember. I just don't remember what it was you were like.

dropping taste of that i went in spurts and it would be like poop jokes and shit it was never like anything serious the way i use social media is out of spite like everything i do is out of spite on there it's like here we get to your fucking posts do you remember what your best poop joke was from that era um i don't know if it was specifically a poop joke but i don't know i i did a recent one on threads where i talked about my masturbation chain okay is this like a text chain but you just tell each other you're jacking off no like what's your mastering chain for producers but i have a masturbating chain nice okay so rob do you have a good poop joke not on demand yeah do you want to clear on the record the fact that we had beef years ago uh yeah i kind of remember that do you actually yeah yeah you you put up a youtube video and i was like what the fuck is this and i just didn't understand what you were doing at all so but you were like sorry uh it's okay i didn't say that no i wasn't a sniveling i wasn't a sniveling coward about it you did you were crying yeah yeah um No, I remember that. But, like, at the time, there was a lot of YouTube, like, just clandestine YouTube posting that I was on the, you know, probably on, like, the prowl just trying to, like, take shit down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yours was with a shirtless man making a coke? Explain what you posted. So it was, I forget what track it was, but I uploaded one of your songs and I paired it with an image of a shirtless guy, very, like, high definition, like, glossy image of a shirtless guy, like, brandishing, like, a coca-cola and that seemed to be like what you took issue with yeah maybe that's maybe i was just like what is this is this so random i don't know i i there were a few other people who uploaded videos of songs of mine with like weird visuals and so i was just i felt like a loss of control i guess yeah you know ironically i did submit a song to the regular majestic casual did you really yeah

I have a song on Majestic Casual. I gotta, I gotta skip this right now. For the full episode, sub to Patriot on Deezer. Swear down. Bosh. Hey. Fake niggas. They do it all for the clout. Always running their mouth. But they've never been about. Yo. I splash niggas. Yo. In and out. Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people They move like the groupies, them Sending shots or snap But in real life don't use this gang