Episode 8: “DUDE RANCH SUPREME” feat. DJ Rish, Salon, L Man *FULL EPISODE ON PATREON

You're closing predictions for what's to come. For next year? Okay. Do you know Wayne Rooney? Fourth time, this has come up. I think he's going to die next year. Is this you saying you're going to kill Wayne Rooney? No, I just think he's going to die next year. This is like my call, my top call for next year. Me and Rob was saying beforehand we're gonna give him like the steak treatment What's the stick treatment? You know, like from Top Gear? You've never seen Top Gear? Not to that extent. But they had a character who's like a badass racer boy. He's like the best driver in the world. He's like the best driver in the world. But he was, yeah, anonymous. So I'm like, similarly, I'm the best podcast guest in the world. Yeah, okay, okay. We have the race man. I think we covered, I think that's all. The race man. He's the race master. All right, so now that we've introduced all our guests, we can sort of get into the content of it. Oh, and we have a... DJ Rich, aka DJ Rich, of music-ass fame. Thank you. Hey, DJ Rich, how are you living, man? I'm living very well. I'm happy to be here. Okay, so taking a shit in the woods. What's the deal with that? Talk to us. What about it? Who says that I took a shit in the woods? You're being kind of coy right now. So myself, yourself, and Mrs. DJ Rich had a little earnest discussion pre-podcast, trying to mind... For a little bit of content. And the first thing that came to mind, Ari, defining moments of your year were poo-poo style, wood style. Care to elaborate? This is the first thing we're going to talk about? I'm the only. Possibly the only, yeah. Yeah, it happened. It was New Year's 2020 into 2021. I was hanging out with Tim. Wait, this isn't topical? That's when I took the... That's when it happened. Dude.

Didn't I say that? That's got visual humor. Luke was already like interjecting me and like, fuck you. Yeah, okay, fine. We don't have to talk about it. Crazy thing as well, Sean is a bear. A bear? He shits in the woods. Ah, okay, yeah, yeah. Alright, alright, that was a bit of a digression, Sean. I swear, like, the microphone was only at your mouth when you said he shits in the woods. Like, the bear bit won't be heard or recorded. This is already, like, started. It's like, it's such a bad podcast. We're gonna have to cut. We're going to have to cut our DJ reissue. So speak on it, man. Speak on it. Fine. New Year's 2020 into 2021. Me, Tim, a.k.a. Organ Tapes, Jordan, a.k.a. Severin Glantz, Cause, a.k.a. Mooney, in the woods. And Ben UFO. And Ben UFO. We were in the woods and I just had to go. It just happened, man. It just happened. Nothing more, nothing less. Is this like a BLM thing you're doing right now? I'm also kneeling right now. Yeah, what was the wipe situation? You know those man-sized tissue boxes from Kleenex? Those square-shaped tissues? I had a pack of those in my bag. I kind of went to town. Why'd you have the tissues in your bag? Because I was going out. What else are you getting up to? On the move. Nothing. Nothing, man. Nothing. I do remember us having a discussion where you were talking to me about how much you like the man-sized tissues. Yeah, I'm a Stan. Yeah, I've had this exact comment. Sean is like a... Is a known stand, an established stand. I think I've never seen anyone be so passionate about a format of facial tissue. I've never seen anyone be so passionate about overcompensating about his bust volume. It just makes sense. They're just practical. He's just self-conscious about how huge his load is. So he needs to get like a giant tissue so his load seems normal-sized in comparison. Was that what you were about to say, DJ Ridge? Yeah, exactly. Is that a thing to feel insecure about?

Load volume. How many ropes is too many ropes? In for 2024. What else happened in the woods, man? Nothing, really. Cool, cool, cool. So, what's up, man? What else is up? Why are you focusing on me so much? We've got loads of good guests. All right, Simran's wearing an Aston Villa scarf, and he was threatening before this podcast, in the event that Villa successfully beat the football club Manchester City, that this would devolve into an Aston Villa exclusive style podcast. Go off, man. Why don't you go off for a second? Also Arsenal in the interim. Well, if you're going to say that, say it in Simran voice. I'm Simran, and Villa also beat Arsenal as well as Man City. Yeah, I feel like that's... It's a boring thing to talk about if it's not all other football weird people. If I was in the middle of Holloway with a bunch of Arsenal fans, that would be fun. This is what you were threatening to go into, man. You're also wearing an Acevilla fucking scarf. Yeah, I mean, I've got to put on for the team. I'll put my team on. Do it. This is about representing the people that matter most to you. That's true. Lots of love to Unai Emery, Pal Torres, GPS, passes. There's not much more to say. because Una Emery is a vampire, right? Ish, yeah, yeah, yeah. It gets that way when he hasn't had a haircut. It's like a slicked back hair, the V-shaped classic, like Dracula hairline. His name is Una. Yeah. I think it's interesting that no English manager has ever won the Premier League. I think there's something about that that we don't think about. I'm thinking about it right now and I like what I'm thinking. I'm like, what's the special sauce? What's the Spanish sauce? Why don't English players or English teams respect their English managers? Interesting. This is a dumb question. Is Fergie Scottish? Alright, that's a Clap from Exclusive. Fergie being Scottish. That's good to get on the record.

You gotta do the fucking BLM shit again. No one can see you. I gotta do the BLM shit. I gotta stay kneed up for the entirety of this podcast. Fucks. Who used to be on your knees for two hours? I didn't hear that and I'm choosing to discard whatever it was. Yeah, exactly. We'll get into the slop talk. uh corner later yeah you know that's a that's a that's a we'll get to that simran you're a certified rocker you're a certified shredder what was this were you telling me about the tour that went on oh i'm getting to that you're kind of nasty on the guitar yeah yeah you kind of you kind of slop hard on the guitar you kind of you kind of bring flames in the guitar yeah i mean you're kind of downplaying it You're a certified Tour Life, XO Tour Life seasoned head. Yeah. In the band A Grave With No Name. Yeah. A t-shirt of which Sean, a.k.a. DJ Rich is wearing right now. Tell us about Tour Life, man. It was interesting. Nice. Okay, so moving on. It was mainly very, very good and cool. It was nice to see places where... I don't know. I've never been to anywhere in Northern Europe before. So the whole Scandinavia, Germany, lots of social niceness and no aggression. Little aggression compared to London, I guess. Everyone seemed a bit chill. But you know you're always going to get a rose-tinted holiday view. As in you're less aggressive there than you are in London? Yeah. I think I'm a reflection of my environment. You got fire in your belly? Yeah. Copenhagen, very safe. Felt like if I had a child, I'd want it to be in Copenhagen. Like while you were in London. Yeah, it would be safer there than if it was with me in London. Literally, there are kids there. There's a level of relaxation that the kids have in Copenhagen that an English child cannot even do.

It's like a higher level. They're relaxing. There was like a lot of hammocks. They were sort of like... Literally. Yeah. Like a lot of... What's the honk shimimoo thing? Yeah. Very... I don't know. What is that? You know, like the snoring. Yeah. Honk shimimoo. Do this out, man. Do this out. Yeah. Honk shimimoo. I think that might be the pod title. That might be the pod time. We were talking about it as it was going on. And you described yourself. I can't remember the exact phrase. But it turned you into a supremacist of some sort? Yes, yes, yes. I was walking around white utopias, it's true. There was a very high-trust society. And it did make me feel the way. But, yeah. I think... is partially that, but partially lots of money in, that's not all gone to money laundering. I think someone, fucking, it made me talk about science, or social science, but they're, I think Denmark's one of the least corrupt countries in the world, and everyone felt very calm, and tended to. Undermugged. Yeah, undermugged for sure. And what I liked about the kids, like, Was that... No one said anything, man. No one said anything. Is that... Is that... They just wore whatever they wanted. They didn't have school uniform. There was a... I saw a girl with, like, green dreads. And a boy with a bowler hat who's wearing odd shoes. You can really do that over here. And I think... But it made them, like... Yeah, it made them reach that higher level of relaxation. like that higher state higher consciousness that i was really jealous of i don't think as an englishman i don't think i could ever reach like you feel like you were really held back by the fact that you weren't allowed to wear a bowler hat bro i wanted i wanted dreadlocks in year six after the lil wayne soldier video like and obviously that was okay so do do those of indian extraction have more leeway pulling off dreads i wasn't talking about it about uh

something you just not allowed well you well back then you just weren't allowed it in school oh okay yeah the indian people i think dreadlocks started in india yeah yeah i'm pretty sure yeah we had um this the satyas i don't know i don't know anything unless they're sort of like og kind of rasta guys yeah actually yeah the first rastas are from india you tell me man who do you think is from india the first rastas oh like oh yeah like og og like rastas so there's a particular sort of like sect i i really can't place in any kind of like religious context oh yeah but they're i guess like pseudo rastas so dreaded up like um hashish to the gills yeah but the the additional element is that they're like buck naked and i think there's some there's a crossover with like a particular like religious sect wherein they respect all life to a degree that's like pathological like borderline like It's just autistic for life respect to the point where they sweep the streets in front of them, such as to not step on any organism or life form. Oh, that's Jane. That's like regular Jane as shit, right? Oh, that's normal shit. The term Rastafarianism comes from the name Rastafari, right? I'm saying they're pseudo-Rastas. They're pseudo-Rastas. They inhabited some of the habits that have since been ascribed exclusively to Rastas. There's also a lot of... Rasta, Sikh crossover, you know, like they don't cut their hair and there's like loads of Sikhs that smoke weed for the higher consciousness thing, which is basically a lot of Rastafarianism. I really like that term groundation, which is like a meeting of Rastafarians where they figure out how to, you know, like defeat the white man. It's called a groundation. That's kind of what this podcast is. Sean's like, uh, yeah, check, please. Sean's wide, by the way. He speaks from experience, bro. I feel like Irish is different. Irish is a subcategory. He's Irish, though. He's Irish. He's Irish.

Do we want to get into the allegations, Sean? What allegations? There's just too many. Yeah, take your pick, man. Take your pick. What I want to talk about is the TT Performance Enhancers compilation and how that came to be. Does that ring a bell to you? Vaguely. Do you remember the label TT? I do, yeah. Who runs that again? Is that Rob? Yeah, Mr. Rob Benning, and you. Is that Mr. Rob Benning? You also run it. I'm a bit player in a larger game, you know what I mean? My game. I'm just an aphid stuck in a web. So there's a, dare I say, legendary music compilation, a compilation music featuring fellow kindred spirits by the names of Jetty, Bambino DJ, and Pella Rock, and yourself. Some of your finest musical moments to date. Thank you. Your song's best and... Oh, for you. For you, yeah. Give us a little taste. You want me to try and sing it? There's no real singing. It's mostly instrumental. Do all the instruments. Nah, I can't do that. Start with the rhythm section. Luca, do you want to take it away? Do you want to do a little interpretation? Yeah, I'm sure you remember the song, right, Luca? so the way the way this compilation this way this the way this compilation came to you which is the first thing i like a and r'd for rob's label tt was was me and rob were in some some we were in like a club at some point i was talking about the idea of like no not even the idea i was talking about like the guys who wound up being on the compilation being like the white boys of funk Wasn't that originally the title? White Boys of Honk. Just get out ahead of it. Just get out ahead of it. The four honky horsemen of the dad apocalypse. The stanky-led apocalypse. And lo and behold, Rob took me up on it. He was like, to me it was just like a disposable sort of thought and Rob was like, yeah, we should do that.

We should give these... White boys need a platform. It's time. Yeah, that's my whole angle. How has your life changed since that compilation came out, DJ Rich, aka Sean? How has my life changed? It really hasn't changed all that much. Come on, man. You go on economics podcasts now. Sometimes, yeah. You're literally going on one tomorrow. Maybe. I might be going on one tomorrow. No, I don't know. I think the reception to the... The project was pretty good. A lot of the hype, to be fair, was around that Bambino DJ track, Lost Rhythm, which got a shitload of hype. Deservedly so. I'm very happy for him. I think he's next up. He's next up, for real. High tides make all white boys rise up. Sure, yeah. 200 years ago, definitely. No, the reception to one of my two tracks on that tape was also pretty good as well. The R4U seemed to be nicely received. What about the reception of the other track? Less good, I would say. What does a good reaction look like in your mind? A good response or reception? I mean, it's mostly internet stuff, isn't it? Likes, plays, and comments. on the internet basically that's how you gauge a lot of the success of music do you refresh a lot of your your your tracks on soundglad a lot do i scope out comments uh here and there yeah i feel like everyone does that so do you have like do you have like a sort of threshold of likes that constitutes a good response or is it more like the con like a qualitative content of the comments both Both, I'd say. We have, like, a sort of combined metric. Yeah. People never really write bad comments on SoundCloud. Nah, SoundCloud's a pretty wholesome, positive place. None of the skill we operate at. Yeah, it reaches a certain level of my virality. Sorry, MK writes derogatory comments on SoundCloud all the time. That's why he's got all those sock puppet accounts. Yeah. Carry on. Carry on. No, I was just saying, like, yeah, most of the SoundCloud, like...

I'd say, like, you only get the negative shit when it reaches a certain level of virality. And, like, before that point, most of the shit you see in the comments section of a SoundCloud song tends to be quite positive. Wouldn't you say so? I don't know. I'm not a narcissist. You're not on SoundCloud? I'm on SoundCloud, but, I mean, I just throw to the... You are already so successful in big that you only get vitriol. Or like justifying the fact that you only get vitriol as it must mean you're so successful. Yeah, I'm past that point. I'm past that breaking point. That's tea. Am I right in thinking that you might have a little vocal tape on the way? What, me? Possibly. I mean, there's this new label. no there's not there's not a new label okay answer the question yeah i'm thinking about i'm thinking about it yeah i mean um i don't i'm less uh into like club music these days i'm listening to a lot more lounge yeah exactly yeah and uh weirdly enough you were talking recently about you had this sort of like in your words you had a quote vision a vision of a new sort of fusion genre that combines rockabilly and billabong? Rockabillabong? Speak on that. No. Billabong the brand? Billabong the brand. Again, isn't a billabong like a watering hole? Yeah, is it? Yeah, but it's like an Australian term. It's like Aboriginal terms, like a mirage. I don't know if it's a mirage, but it's actually like a watering hole. That sounds like me. Like an oasis type thing, yeah. The brand communicates. Okay, now that you know the definition of billabong. Wait, what does a brand communicate? All brands communicate a specific sound, don't they? Just from looking at the brand, you're like, oh, this is the type of music that would go with that brand. But in fusion with rockabilly. Sound of billabong? Yeah. It's somewhere between Are You Gonna Be My Girl by Jet and Heaven is a Half-Pipe by OPM. Banger. No Beach Boys.

Maybe. It's the wrong era. That's the wrong era. What about Puma? Because that is a noiseless brand to me. Yeah, Puma. It's a brand that just stresses me out. It's kind of like a B-tier, like Grime MC, like Frisco or something. What about Dunkin' Donuts? It's not a B-tier MC, but we'll let that slide for the sake of a convivial podcast. Okay, convivial mode. I may be Shorty then. Wait. Hey, Shorty never lost a battle. No, that doesn't matter. Move on. Simon, are you a jethead? A jethead? No, not really. I just know that, you know, the Pitchfork review. Where this is 0.0. Monkey pissing into his own mouth. Right, right, right. I was going to ask about the... I was going to ask about the... Through the Fire and Flames TT. Dragonforce? Compilation. The reason and the reason he knows a song I'm hundred percent sure is because I'm showing your age there brother You like that song Luca Dragon Force, Through the Fire and Flames. Dragon Force is so fucking good. I like that song. Really? It's like a Pokemon theme song. It just gets you... No, but you have this whole thing where you love reclaiming really shit, cheesy music. It's like, no, no, man, it's good. Me? Yeah, you. Dude, Simran doesn't think about it like that. Simran doesn't think about it like that, though. Simran has his own particularly warped worldview. He's very sincere. Yeah, Simran's just fucking crazy. I was going to ask the... Did the Tova, Berg, Nicholas, and Daniel Paul neo-folk compilation did that come out well the collab did that come out before through the fire and flame yeah it did I found them through that right and they're fucking sick it's a really good release yeah it is I feel like it needs to be spoken about dude I've not seen it anywhere so imagine two guys white playing guitar Simon and Garfunkel whoa shit I don't think Garfunkel even plays guitar I don't think Garfunkel's white yeah so it's which confirms the fact it's just never happened it's unprecedented

Yeah, I mean, shout out Toverberg Collective, shout out Nicolas, shout out Daniel Paul. Where are they from? Belgium, like Brussels. I mean, awful country, but a redeeming characteristic. You can't just walk that back so instantaneously. And yet. And yet we have. I feel like of all of our multitude of guests, Samaritan by far has the deepest docket. What song am I, man? It's got a bunch of songs that I've been fucking with. Oh, Alex Jones is back on Twitter. It's just very notable. Oh, shit. Yo, I feel like... So, during some of our, like, earliest ever conversations, you were saying that at, like, a shockingly young age, you, like, got on Alex Jones. Yeah, I was tuned into Mr. Jones at, like, when I was 14, 13, 14. I was really big on the 9-11 conspiracy, 9-11 truth. my wife was listening to like a podcast about the origins of alex jones yeah and they're talking about how like yeah 9-11 was like his first sort of big thing is like yeah he had a documentary called like the mainstream this whole like bush did 9-11 but it also like He also just kind of switched overnight. When Obama became president, that's when he suddenly was like, okay, from now on, I'm like a right-wing psycho lunatic. Yeah, totally. Where was he before that? He was more of a merciless centrist. Just like an anti-war guy. He was just like anti-everything. By the time he was anti-Bush, because of whatever, Bush was in power, so he was like the opposition. And that's George Bush. Junior. Junior. I think I really like the way that he just communicates through just emotion like and there's just like grunts and shit yeah and he just like he'll just take off his shirt and be like Hillary is a demon Hillary smells like sulfur oh yeah that's really emotional and I just think that's so beautiful like I feel like there's so much like news it's like it's all about facts and stuff and it's just

And that's it. Finally some lies. I feel like it doesn't communicate the deeper truths of life. You want a less objective news. Oh, totally, yeah. Oh, my God. His co-workers are all 100% sure that he voted for Obama for his second term because his entire platform relied on Obama being president. Oh, yeah, totally. Barack. Barack. Barack. No, Michelle. How does a 14-year-old stumble across Alex Jones? By googling Alex Jones. Single parenthood. And... You were a single parent at the time and you had nothing else to do. Stressed out. He's a nominee. He probably found out about Sandy Hook. That's when most normal people found out about him. No, you should. Come on. Give me some credit. No, his favorite bit of like Alex Jones media is that video of him like chasing a guy on the street and shouting, you're an intellectual dumbass. Come here, coward. It's fantastic. Oh, he's so sick. I mean, my favorite bit of Alex Jones media is it's a video called. Alex Jones explains Neon Genesis Evangelion. Oh, dude. Yeah, it's so good. So good. Wait, should we just recount a lot of... Should we recount viral content? Yeah, please. And also... Not from this year. And also explain the plot of Neon Genesis Evangelion to explain the context. Luca, take it away. So, first, define anime. Let's work from there. Sexy. Yeah, it's really hard. It is. It's like hentai but without the pornography. Right, right, right. I watch hentai for the anime. Yeah, I fuck with that. Should we do some 2023 here? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is supposedly... I stole one of your beers, David. I feel like David set the tone by asking DJ Risha about an instant from 2021. No, that was Nas, dude. No, that was you. You asked me to talk about shit like...

From the get-go. That was Nas, dude. Nas set that up from... Nas is pulling all the strings. Oh, yeah. Mrs. DJ Rich. Care to comment, Nas? No comment. It's Nas's fault that this podcast is sub-optimal. The only comment is that the shit story was not the shit story that I was referring to. Oh, she had a different shit story in mind. You got multiple. Okay, DJ Rich, back to the shit. Back to the... Nah, that's the only one. Okay, brass tacks, brass tacks, brass tacks, brass tacks. I mean, actually, maybe Nas wants to recount it, I don't know. To be fair, the other one is less interesting. It's more fun. Let us be the judge. How could it possibly be less interesting than the other story, which is just, you took a shit? Do you want me to talk about Sean's shit story? Oh my gosh. That feels shitty. Was it this year? No, it was several years ago. In the midst of COVID. It was a long day. Sean and me decided to go out on a walk. We took the car out. We were out for hours walking. And behold, Sean had to take a shit. But the only place that there was visibly any privacy screening was a shit. Was a toilet. No toilet. It was what we thought was completely empty woodlands. And so Sean found a spot to take a little dump. Or so we thought. And Sean's like, it was huge, it was huge. For real though, for real though, it was. Can you say DJ Rish instead of Sean? DJ Rish. And then, so we walk away from the crime scene. And maybe 15 seconds later, we hear a little child scream. Like extremely loud. And Sean looks at me. Just took a tiny shit. It's so tiny. It's pathetic. I'm so glad you came, babe. So 2023, huh? What a banger. Yeah. Let's get into it. Sheesh. So this is like ostensibly a 2023 in review. With a 29 minute intro. Podcast.

uh yeah i was gonna quickly say something i guess it's 2023 related that i came across this uh music musician but i guess he's like semi-influencer where his whole thing is that he will just make songs like content you know like people uploading like fucking tiktoks or whatever and uh he wants to and the songs are like really shit they're just like it's just like really really bland pop music but he's really really popular And his whole thing is like, I treat it like a business. This is what people don't want to hear. You have to upload every song with a piece of content. And then once I have like a hundred songs that I've done, like a million, I'm going to sell my catalog and then go to the next hundred and sell that catalog. And that's my whole, it was just like the most unromantic thing I've ever like heard or see anyone do is like peak Americanism. But you should check like, the guy, he's called Nick D and like, Let me just double check. Yeah, Nick D. And I was just like, it was just so ugly. Everything about it was just the ugliest thing. But I feel like you're, you, you, you. Nah, he was just kind of normal looking. So despite him like not being like barf worthy upon regard, I feel like you're, you will take these kinds of things into consideration and sort of like, I hate to use the word, but like sublimate them into the way that you like approach making music. Yeah. I mean, I had an idea where. I was thinking about the next time I release any music. It's not like this would actually mean anything. But the first 50 people who bought it would get a share of the streaming. And I thought that would be a cool way to release music. Because the first 50 people are investors. But that's different to just selling catalog or whatever. You're, like, so close to reinventing pyramid schemes. Do you think that's something kind of charming in, like, the direct opposite of what you're talking about where people try so hard to make it a business and just fail? Like, did you see that guy who did the, like, I am rectangular? Dude, that song of the fucking year. This is what I mean. Like, he actually, he tried to do this, like, cynical, like, cash cap edit because it's, like, so...

poorly executed yeah exactly it's just like really charming I don't know Do you think it was... I feel like this is a guy whose entire life is dictated by those kinds of commercial forces whose brain has been so reformatted by those forces that he's unable to think outside of them. But I feel like Iron Rectangular was his attempt at being extremely sincere and sort of existing outside of that. But he just doesn't have the sort of neural framework to make something that doesn't on some level, at least even if incompetently, attempt to play into that framework. Yeah, he's a square. He's a square. the love interest is a circle like it's never gonna work i am rectangular i feel it in my bones i am rectangular i feel no hole i am rectangular I am rectangular. I thought you were going to try and get us to all do it together. No, no, no, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. What can be gleaned? What are the actionable insights to be taken away from I Am Rectangular, Simran? I'm not aware of this. Wait, you haven't seen it? Really? Oh, damn. Sean? DJ Rich? What? The I Am Rectangular guy? Yeah. Speak on it, man. He's got green hair. Fuck you. Dude, shout out the Iron Rectangler guy. I don't know. Rob, do you have any? His name is Sean. His name is Sean. His name is Sean. Wait, you found it that quick? Oh, it is. Hey, okay. It's year in review. Yeah. A year that was a banner year. Wasn't it just a banner year? Say less. Truly a banner year. A banner year. A banner year that resulted in music. That we liked. Which was really unexpected. I don't know. How do we want to do this? How are we going to talk about our favorite outfit? Did everyone make some sort of a list? I wrote something down. I knew Luca came in completely blind. I'm just hearing riff on other people. You're just snipe being like, yeah, more like poo-poo caca.

All right, Sean, what are you saying, man? You're a music-ass, listening-ass guy. What, I like this year? Well, actually, let me do that. Are you going to put me on the spot? Yeah, I'm going to put you on blast right now, brother. Put me on blast. So, Sean Metcalf, people are referring to you as sort of the whiz kid of Afrobeats. Indeed. Your Abuja, Nigeria was your Spotify-wrapped sound town. That was my sound town, yeah. Speak on it, brother. I listen to a lot of... I keep listening to A Dunce in the Engine. You're familiar with him? And he put this, like, dreamy pop, kind of afro-inflected dreamy pop album in 2018 called Rare. And I just can't stop listening to it. And I sampled it on my TT track, actually. And I think he's amazing. And that's probably why I got Abuja Nigeria. as my sound town what's the one song of his that's about like it's about like the last dance or dance floor it's called yeah how's it going uh i'm not willing to divulge i genuinely want to know how it goes it's annoying me it's annoying to me that i can't remember the exact like flow heiky he goes like i'm calling i'm calling my lover all right there you go okay okay okay it's a great song it's a great song I'm calling, I'm calling my lover. I'm calling, I'm calling my lover. I'm calling, I'm calling my lover. Yeah, basically our first 2023 album of the year came from 2018. You asked me about it. I wasn't going to be my first thing. So Abuja, Nigeria. My sound town. Do you have any words for the sound town of the year? Do I have any words for the people of Dubuja, Nigeria? That's my question. Yeah. No, I just like the music that's made there in Nigeria. If you want to give him the key, though, what would you say?

What would I say if they gave me the key to the city? Dude, I literally, oh my god, Sean is live googling, do they have doors in Nigeria? Fuck you. Fuck you for exposing me. Yeah, fuck you for exposing me. No, I would be very humble. It could happen, man, it could happen. How would you rehearse the speech in front of the mirror? Sounds like it's more than zero. Where was your sound town? My sound town? I didn't have one. He doesn't use Spotify. I feel like you've checked out of active contemporary music for a while. Yeah, I have. What's the deal, man? Like Cat Stevens vibes. Not inaccurate. I don't know. It's been mostly... I don't know, like university, mental health issues and struggles, checking out things and then like not bothering. No, then, you know, I had a really tough period. What does that mean? So, yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, so Luca, I mean, Sean, rather, Abuja. What was the if you had to like estimate I mean clearly haven't looked at your spotify rats What was the song? Yeah, you spotify at all, do you? Yeah, so what's the fun? What do you listen to music on then like SoundCloud or YouTube? Yeah, so you must have had a SoundCloud rap then 2023 wrapped. Yeah, but they don't tell you, like, where. They don't give you the city. Yeah, true. But what did it look like, though? What was your... What was your rap saying? I love, like, emo rap type stuff, really, like... Emo rap stuff. Gothboy Click and shit like that, yeah. Gothboy Click. Gothboy Click. Damn. Yeah. Actually? Yeah, for real. Oh, dude, hell yeah. Little Zubin, Misery Club. Interesting. Very interesting. This is news to me. I didn't expect that. I wasn't taking the piss when you struck me as, like, a classic rock guy.

I was a classic rock. Luka loves his rock, man. When I was like 13, 14, 15, yeah, for sure. There's a few bands who still hold up for me, for sure. E.G. Now we're talking true classic rock. First time I met Luka, you said it like Joy Division. Joy Division, yeah. We're called Joy Division classic rock, but no, Joy Division rule. But Joy Division have been sort of like appropriate into mainstream culture and like a really... Even football fans sing Joy Division songs, right? What's the football Joy Division song? Love will tear us apart. Oh, okay. And it's like, Broughton and Hove Albion will tear us apart. You're on Benny Grover and Hassling. You're on Benny Grover and Hassling. Holy shit, deep cut. I'll be in like a meme. No, they're not. They're doing well, yeah. I think it was just a football club with the most syllables. Yeah, yeah. It's just like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, Simran, man. Hello. What's your rap saying? My town city was Santa Cruz, California. And... I don't know. I feel like the song that really sticks out for me this year was the last night we led through a league. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That's kind of an insane banger. It's a fucking slapper. It is a slapper. Did you hear the Horeko S blend with this cash band song? Yeah, I didn't like it. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you.

Really? That's nuts man. I like the OG song too much. Right. I think maybe if you knew... Because I didn't know the song beforehand. I think maybe if you knew the song beforehand, then the blend doesn't hit the same way. Oh, you didn't know the song beforehand? Wait, you didn't know last night before that? I mean, I fuck with Morgan Wallen, as well-established. True. But you kind of pioneered that SoundCloud, country edit kind of thing. You made the first one, and then Huerco S made the second one. Well, this is like deep lore. Yeah, I got bit by Huerco S, and I'll say it right now. Apparently, Tim in the background is saying that he made the first one. Are you fucking joking? Dude, Tim, get on the fucking mic, you son of a bitch. Say it in the mic. Dude, no one can hear you. Kane and Smith love you like that. You made an edit of that, huh? Okay, well, you were the second. What's the exact timestamp of when you made it and uploaded it? Well, thank God that's out of ears. There is a trend, though, of these country pop SoundCloud edits. coming up now. Wouldn't you say, Deva? We have to jump on and take Round Here by Florida Georgia Line before someone snipes it. Oh my god, dude. Tim, you can't speak for that. He's just like chuckling to himself. Wait, I want to hear Silver and Spotify rap. Yeah, let's hear it. Am I supposed to know it off by heart? He's got like an 8,000 word note. He like scripted that phrase. I mean, loads of it was just a great one I think because I was listening songs to practice. But the album I really like was the Nitski album. The Nitski album. NTSKI. NTSKI.

it's like a Japanese R&B lady and then yeah I really I listen to a lot of not 2023 music I listen to the Pretty Tony album by Ghostface Killer oh damn okay I kind of like what's on there? there's no like he doesn't have like a big crossover any big crossover songs on there but it's what year is it? 2004 but yeah it's kind of I don't know. I've never been able to get into his solo albums as much. They kind of get a bit samey, but I really like that album. It's got a whole concept. I mean, I feel like his concept generally is just like... I'm Ghostface Killer. I'm a really cool guy. The intro is like a press conference. He's looking at any rapper and being like, this has to be a concept. Remember when you saw him live in Shanghai? Yeah. And he was on stage and he gave this whole speech about like, anyone can rap about the puss you get. And then like two weeks later, his new album came out featuring the song Stapleton Sex, which included the line, from behind I'm a mastermind. Put it in. Yeah. You can put my dick in your mouth and play with my nuts. But before I bust, babe, I think I come in your butt. I got my gun on the floor and I'm ready to fuck like it's nothing. Yeah. It's nothing. Yeah. Yo, my face is wet. Got hair on my tongue. Guess I'm a greedy nigga. It's all pussy juice like a sponge. Feel a pretty warm dick. Rub it on your click, off, right before a bust I spray it on your tits, switch you over Throw you to the side with one leg up See the head slide in your hole, he stay up Dick all shiny, helmet head bulging, smack it on your tushy When I hear the, it's wet and it's cushy From behind, I'm a mastermind, hundred fast ones And slow it up, because I know how to fuck Keep your pussy right there, don't move Ooh, holla at your boy, baby, dude

He also brought out some of the most busted ladies of all time to, like, back him up. Oh, yeah, just to work on stage, yeah. Wait, are they part of his touring party? No, you're just like, yo! Source locally. Actually, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. Busted as in... Not good. Wow. Okay, Deva. Wow. I mean, they made me horny. i was bricked i was so bricked wait so we got nitski we got we got ghost face and yeah just like i said i've been listening to slime season two and that era of young thug because uh listening to the later the new the new you know like i feel like post 2017 like metro booming is just like so syrupy and boring now but it's really nice to go back to those ones they're just like a bit rougher a bit harder like slime season two yeah just very sometimes isn't too i think that sometimes isn't too like i came from nothing yeah and uh what was the one that had like riri on it riri and um slime season one i think yeah was it i can't remember i know all i know is that like all like like popular rap music for like the last like 10 to 15 years has sounded like metric like that era of music yeah and just hasn't like evolved into me like every single like a little baby song i know was that jeffrey with riri on it yeah yeah yeah like little baby's just like a bit more of like a boring version of you're right it is it's it's the jeffrey one yeah that's the one with the dress dude oh my god it's such it's such a it's such a good release yeah i remember like sometimes you like proceeded that shit yeah yeah it was just before like i don't know it's just uh and then like the video for the language like so good i just keep going back to it i'm just like i'm just so nostalgic i've not been this nostalgic for something in like so long like uh just like waiting for young thug uploads and like you know mixtape drops on like live mixtapes or whatever you think that young thug's like chubby now yeah like chill chubby yeah he's getting three meals a day in prison isn't he

actually but he was on like a like a like an insane he was eating like gummy worms and shit like exclusively for like for like as long as he was alive that doesn't mean it's hard to get fat in jail so he just like for the first time he had like a processed green bean just instantly became like obese because i don't know you've only ever had like gummy worms i missed that era as well man that was like the best that was like the best size like thugger era i thought it would never end it's like it's kind of like it's kind of it's to me it's like mind-blowing that that music that at the time i thought that was so like paradigm shifting has become like really formulaic and kind of like dull like prefab but that happens with so many genres like the same thing happened with uk drill three or four years where that's like was so exciting and so forward thinking yeah then at a certain point with the kind of like m1 mk the blog beats got stuck on a formula and now it's just kind of descended into parody it always happens i mean yeah always will always will you think that's like a producer first phenomenon no i think i just pay more attention to the producers yeah yeah and i do the rappers the best uk draw era was that srb separation confirmed yeah yeah exactly like a lot yeah a lot of that but can't still stayed interesting to be fair like it um she'll like suit seven that's like my main reference for that guy yeah yeah but then he did like lots of young's teflon production and he did his own tapes afterwards that had this kind of like atlanta almost memphis feel to them that that carried away on this is going on into like 2019 20 i think i stopped listening around 2020 but 2018 2019 i feel like 2019 is pretty much kind of when drill began to fall apart what what are you like a thuggerhead bro yeah i mean i like jeffrey and i like um what's it what's the one with florida water on Or is the album called Florida Water? I don't know that song. That's really, it's like, it was an early like, um, collab tape he did with someone else. It's got like, no, no, no. It's pre that. It's like, I don't give him, I don't give a motherfucking fuck. No, no, it's hang on. Talk about something else. Okay.

Mud on my shoes, stepping on a $100,000 fucking rug Bitches that wanna take pictures of these $20,000 slugs SML don't have a leader, everyone with me look like the plug Woke up and bought a pimp and bittin' Life from OGWD, nigga we killin' witness RIP OGD, she know she not winnin' If she strayin' But yeah, the rest of my Spotify raps. I was trying to like buy time. Oh, right. Sorry. I had Cypress Hill on there. Wow. Bloody Jay and Young Thug. Damn. 2014. Album was called Black Portland. It's fucking sick. You mean Portland. Exactly. So... Anyway, Simran. Simran. I feel like if anyone's going to be like... If anyone's going to be like a Cypress Hills... You have like... You'll like hit me up occasionally with like... The deepest cut just sort of like... Just like... Most like abandoned... Like 2000s era like rap song of all time. that you inexplicably have found some sort of, like, a spark in. And it, like, let's say, like, 75% of the time, it, like, hits for me as well. How the fuck are you, like, listening to Cypress Hill in this year? Um, I mean, there wasn't much to do in, like, in suburban England other than getting to Cypress Hill or, like, whatever was in HMV. Dude, everyone liked Cypress Hill at the time, but now. But, yeah, I mean, I'll go back to, I think like, they're just like, yeah, their overlooked album, I guess, Cypress Hill 4, it's got some bangers on there. They had like a rapper who was temporarily joined the group called Baron Ricks, who was in the group Smith & Wesson, I think, or in some group like that. And yeah, he's just really sick of rapping and it made the rest of them rap really well. They're like, oh shit, this guy's really good. So we actually have to be really good at rapping now and not just, yeah.

doing bullshit so why are you revisiting this um i think i had a yeah because i made music under the new name salon i had i thought that was just like the sort of your instagram no i think i'm gonna i'm gonna start making music in the new salon and i talked to you by the way sorry about that yeah no fuck you the uh but the I kind of had this feeling that I wanted to get more evil and scary. And like Cypressill 4 was kind of like an evil and scary album. So I was listening to it just for inspiration. Like just to be more, yeah. You're going to be going over like vamp beats and like Transylvania. Yeah. I mean, also just like using a lower voice rather than using like such a sweet, like a very sweet voice all the time. Like just trying to get more of that energy and like see how other people do it, I guess. And that was one of the things to listen to. I tell you, he's got the sickest voice. I completely, I completely missed until you and Smokey was talking about him last week. Was that, was it Fresh Boy swag? Yo, crazy. His voice is unreal. He sounds like, uh, like early Naira Marley. The track, the tunes themselves, the tunes themselves, the tunes themselves sound nothing like Naira Marley, but his voice specifically at certain points, it's amazing. It's absolutely amazing. His flows, so his flows are, his voice is hard, his like, bars are so-so. It doesn't, yeah, it doesn't, but it's about the vibe, isn't it? Like, I feel like the bars don't really matter that much. It's just all him talking about getting his dick sucked. Yeah. in not very creative ways. It's just like, I am getting my dick. It's fine. I feel like the less creative, the better, the more blunt. Yeah, we can't identify. No, we will cut that, cut that, cut that. Can't identify what? No, no, no, it's fine. With getting his dick sucked. This is the guy with the videos on the tube. He doesn't like it because he just can't relate to it. He's like long-ass names. They all, again, Xavi is so based. Yeah, well, these all seem to be... Xavi is just fire, man. No, I'm saying, everyone's got a super... Yeah. It's crazy. Well, I listened to some of his newer stuff and I wasn't so into it, but there seemed to be this one tape called Rock Bottom. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking cruel, bro. Pardon? Fucking cruel. Oh, yep. Did you see the Fresh Boy Swag Twitter thing? So I looked him up on TikTok and there was a thing about him DMing 12-year-old girls. Wait.

David's got the... There were 13, bro. Oh, okay. But I thought we had this conversation about AC Flow as well. A couple years away from Age of Consent. Yeah, you were like, well, she was 16, so... It passes. Meeting a girl on COD and asking to have, like, e-sex as the way you go down. I don't know. The whole, like, vocabulary of sort of, like, cancellation as an 18-year-old is completely, like, foreign to me. And I choose to disregard it entirely. You were 19 when you got cancelled. So genuinely, I choose to disregard it regardless. Regardless, I disregard it. That has no bearing in my life whatsoever. The drama of 21 versus 17-year-old to this point is completely irrelevant to me. As far as I'm concerned, he's not cancelled because the voice of a 17-year-old has just no bearing whatsoever in my life. What did he do? He e-cream-pied someone. Yeah. For real. For real. Wait, how does that work? Is it like he takes a character over someone else's character? No, no. Dude, Luca, you're giving it too much credit. It's just being like, it's him, it's sort of like a chat-based exchange. Was it like in Minecraft? No, probably like Lessa. Oh, it's Cod, where it's like a chat-based exchange where he's like, I am now cream-pying you. And she was like, I'm 17. This is a really good podcast. Pretty bad, isn't it? DJ Rish, care to comment? Yeah. Outro Music Okay, so the cut will be just like that whole section and then just like a sort of like winking reference to the cream pie. No, we got straight into Rob saying cream pie. Simon, what was your first ever IRL exposure to the phrase, the word goyslop? You saying it. Okay, cool. I think that's break. I think that's halftime. Halftime? Oh my God. I'm so bad at being on a podcast.

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